With path tracing? No. You'd be well under 60fps in CP2077.
5070 = 4090 performance for $549 USD.
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And as some of the videos mentioned, the VRAM is still low on the mid to low tier cards for a 2025 GPU. But if they are banking on texture compression tech and new frame gen magic then perhaps they are hoping people will turn on all those tech options, use less VRAM, and just not worry about raw power.
It'll be interesting to see what the reviews show for sure.
It'll be interesting to see what the reviews show for sure.
I've been struggling a bit trying to get my head around this now that I've got a relatively high tiered card... I'm maxing FPS on UWQHD at native res, but only with RT disabled. Enabling RT (in D IV) brings it down closer to 60. 4K would probably provide me with over 60 at native res w/ RT off, but probably not much better.
Ray tracing is a killer currently no matter what GPU you are on, and of course only more so at 4K.
In the end that was why I went with my 7900 XT over an NVIDIA option. Although ray tracing is pretty, I didn't feel it added enough to games for the hit on FPS, so I went with the cheaper very good raw performance GPU and just leave ray tracing off. Yours would be the cheaper excellent raw performance GPU
They'll certainly sell some. There's a definite 'must buy top new tech crowd' and with AMD pulling out of the top tier, Nvidia wins by default, but inflation's hurting a lot of people's consumer spending so I'm not sure it'll do as well at that price. At least internationally with the USD on a run the last year or so.I imagine it's Multi-frame generation being used on the 5070 to get 4090 performance. The quick little demo clips look a lot better than DLSS3+FG today.
Jensen made a joke that everyone in the room was already running a 4090 on their $10k watercooled PC setups at homeThey know their market and people are going to spend $2k for a 5090.
The 2000 series definitely saw slower number than Nvidia expected due to the price hikes at the time. They'll still make money it's just a question of how much and if they'll meet sales targets or not. I'm not sure if it'll be nearly the success the 4000 series was.
The best thing to come out of this reveal seems to be the likely drop in pricing for used 4090's. That's likely what I'll be watching for.
I think that will still depend on the reviews. I mean it should impact used prices some, but if the 4090 matching performance only comes with all the magic tech turned on that may keep the used price of the 4090 higher for those wanting raw performance.
If the DLSS 4 and related features end up being really good though, so good that people don't want to play without them, and they restrict them to the 5000 series GPUs, that could make the 4090 less desirable and cheaper and 4090 owners move to 5090s or perhaps even 5080s.
I think the other "big" piece was that you can control DLSS4 features in the NVIDIA app instead, you don't need to wait for the game developer.
Still, the 5070 is $50USD less than the 4070 at launch, the 5080 we'll say is the same price (4080 Super). It seems mostly a "win" for gamers. The pricing wasn't as insane as some of the rumours lead us to believe.
AMD couldn't be bothered to show any of the 9070XT at their conference. That seems a bit worrisome to me, and I wonder if it's slower than the 5070 and also priced above $549.
Still, the 5070 is $50USD less than the 4070 at launch, the 5080 we'll say is the same price (4080 Super). It seems mostly a "win" for gamers. The pricing wasn't as insane as some of the rumours lead us to believe.
AMD couldn't be bothered to show any of the 9070XT at their conference. That seems a bit worrisome to me, and I wonder if it's slower than the 5070 and also priced above $549.
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