The RealRollo
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I'm 100% sure that the AISuite I used wasn't quite accurate....why? Because ASUS admitted there was an issue with it.
Could Asus be biased? Or NOOBs? Spreading FUD?
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I'm 100% sure that the AISuite I used wasn't quite accurate....why? Because ASUS admitted there was an issue with it.
FUD
As some one that owns a 9370 and runs its at 9590 speed, it does not dump tons of heat.
Hardware Canucks Review said:The FX-9590 is a hot running processor and we don’t mean hot in any conventional meaning of the word either. This thing is like having a miniature nuclear reactor strapped to your motherboard; it will thoroughly overwhelm mid-tier heatsinks and AIO water coolers alike.
That is sort of a double edged sword, don't you think? At the highly threaded apps FX-9590 will be "OK" for it will be running in the "mini nuclear reactor" mode with all 8 cores churning along and heating the thing up till the water in your cooler boils. At the "normal use" single threaded apps where it fails hard it will have more manageable thermal characteristics.Yeah....one is using it under normal operating conditions...the other is maxing it out continuously. Sky is blue, water is wet. Many peeps use 200w CPUS...we just call them 'over-clocked'.
OK but that doesn't change what I said being right. You're still just transferring that heat off the chip and into the room, and you are doing it with fans running at higher speeds than you would with an intel part.Drop a decent high end cooler on it...and call it a day.
Even at $300 it's no competition for a 3770K or 4770K. A person buying this is basically saying "Gee, I don't mind having less performance, more heat, higher electricity bills, more primitive motherboards, because......ummm......well....I'm at 5GHz!".Would I want to spend that kind of money on a slower CPU...nope. But at 3 bills it would be decent option. 4 though...is pushing it.
That is sort of a double edged sword, don't you think? At the highly threaded apps FX-9590 will be "OK" for it will be running in the "mini nuclear reactor" mode with all 8 cores churning along and heating the thing up till the water in your cooler boils. At the "normal use" single threaded apps where it fails hard it will have more manageable thermal characteristics.
Also this thing is whipped to within and inch of it's life to get near intel mid range performance at stock speeds. If you OC an intel chip to these levels of power use, you have a much higher performing part.
OK but that doesn't change what I said being right. You're still just transferring that heat off the chip and into the room, and you are doing it with fans running at higher speeds than you would with an intel part.
When I got the two GTX480 GPUs I had to buy a CoolerMaster HAF932 case to run them- "higher end cooling". With them, it was worth dumping that heat in the room, buying that high end cooling, because I got the highest end performance in return.
Even at $300 it's no competition for a 3770K or 4770K. A person buying this is basically saying "Gee, I don't mind having less performance, more heat, higher electricity bills, more primitive motherboards, because......ummm......well....I'm at 5GHz!".
AMD CPUs don't add up anymore, and that's why no one is buying them.
Rollo,
The Old Q6600 and some of the Prescotts used to be the same way thermally, but we managed. Unless you live in a tiny poorly ventilated room the heat is a non-issue. I folded with GX2's (8 of them) and a Myraid of other cards and because the room got circulation I never had thermal issues.
I think you are making more of a deal on something than it needs to be. Sure, performance vs Intel is lacking in applications, that's fine, people will buy what they will buy regardless of what you or I have to say in the matter.
But this obsession with High Thermals is not exclusive to them.
Look at Haswell mate, you clock that just a bit and it is no different. They are hot chips, very hot chips. Where is your complaint or comparison about those?
-ST
Sadly, for those users hoping for one last upgrade on the AM3+ platform, it looks like prospects of a large Steamroller based product on that platform are slim.
In contrast, the AMD FX 9590 has everything you need to make a bad product ...! Nothing makes it possible to save the day for this processor, either technically or commercially, and we understand better after having hands why AMD avoids the supply under test.
Why would anyone invest money in a dead end, EOL platform?