discussion Any of you on Rogers Xfinity for internet? Results?

[FreeKnight]

Through the RPP program with the Engineering Tech's association they're running a 'Rogers 1G w/ unlimited bandwidth' for $75/mo + tax. I'm debating on upgrading from my lightspeed $50/month 350 Mbps.

One thing though; you get supplied a Rogers Xfinity modem/wifi combo. Ages ago when I had shaw or telus their supplied routers were always.... pretty awful.

Any of you have experience with the new ones? Most of my house is hardwired ethernet so I'm less concerned with the router's wifi performance than I am with it blocking port control and making it impossible to 'Yaaarrrrr' some content (with a VPN enabled of course)....

If you've got Xfinity and don't mind chiming in on the results and how it works for you on your 'content acquisition' I'm curious. Thanks.

 

[JD]

That would be Shaw territory formerly? And coax/DOCSIS or is it fiber?

I have the XB8 modem here in Toronto on DOCSIS, and even in bridge mode, the WiFi blasts out on 2.4/5/6GHz channels with a hidden SSID. Some people have opened up the modem and disconnected the antennas. Tends to be a maintenance window around 3-4AM here at least, so the modem reboots periodically but it's only a brief outage.

$75 doesn't seem like a great deal, but I know Ontario tends to get better promotions.

 

[moocow]

If it's former Shaw territory converted to Roger branding like BC, then it's last mile copper. I'm not exactly please with it.

• Poor signal from neighborhood node, Shaw upgraded the cable years ago but didn't really solve the problem
• Had to add a MOCA compatible amp with splitter at the incoming line inside the external box
• It would still go down randomly around 3:15am or so (could be maintenance period that JD mentioned)

The only reasons I'm staying with this:

• No CAT5 in house and I'm using MOCA adapters since I don't want to use Wifi mesh
• Better access outside at stores and malls (just have to remember to use VPN)

 

[JD]

• Poor signal from neighborhood node, Shaw upgraded the cable years ago but didn't really solve the problem

Yeah, I suppose that's the nature of DOCSIS networks, highly dependant on the neighbourhood, and even if your neighbours themselves have say an old VCR or something hooked up that's sending noise down the line.

UniFi says my last modem reboot was April 25 at 4:19AM. I'm inclined to say it's roughly once a month, sometimes more. My IP has never changed though. I'm fairly certain it's their maintenance time though, as my Xfinity TV boxes have the same time period mentioned.

I downloaded an Ubuntu torrent just now without any VPN or such, worked fine. It's uploading to peers as well. I tend to rely on my Distributel (Bell) fiber for such things though, I mostly have Rogers for TV.

 

[sswilson]

Isn't Rogers pretty much plug/play for third party hardware without their modem in the mix at all?

I'm still hung up on the idea that they use an external ONT which connects to the only high speed port thus rendering any wired speeds > 1G moot, but have been getting the idea that I could just plug my Unifi gateway directly into the ONT and be able to just connect any STBs directly to my APs.

 

[Cypher^64]

I'm on Rogers/Shaw xfinity with their hardware. Put it in bridge mode, use my own hardware after that.

It's been rock solid and pretty darn fast.



In Canada, I don't think you can use anything except for the ISP's gateway (specifically talking about docsis/cable). I know in the US there are a few providers where you can buy 3rd party modems and get them to work

 

[Izerous]

My modem is still Shaw branded just had to power cycle it 30 minutes ago or so. First time I have touched it intentionally in over a year. Just bridge mode to my UDM-Pro though. I really hate that the Rogers takeover was approved and I wish there were better options out there. Telus and Rogers both suck when it comes to actual customer service, at least Shaw was nice to deal with.

The offer they gave you seems to be a good deal though. Usually more than that for a 1G plan. I find that with 500M at home it really is more than enough though even with my screwing around and 4+ people in the house at any given point.

 

[Cannon Fodder]

Through the RPP program with the Engineering Tech's association they're running a 'Rogers 1G w/ unlimited bandwidth' for $75/mo + tax. I'm debating on upgrading from my lightspeed $50/month 350 Mbps.

One thing though; you get supplied a Rogers Xfinity modem/wifi combo. Ages ago when I had shaw or telus their supplied routers were always.... pretty awful.

Any of you have experience with the new ones? Most of my house is hardwired ethernet so I'm less concerned with the router's wifi performance than I am with it blocking port control and making it impossible to 'Yaaarrrrr' some content (with a VPN enabled of course)....

If you've got Xfinity and don't mind chiming in on the results and how it works for you on your 'content acquisition' I'm curious. Thanks.

First of all, I suggest you check out the links that @JD provided to me, over in this thread: IPTV services ...... there are several posts in those RFD threads that show some of the deals to be had, and $75/mo. for 1Gbps is a bit high.

Based on the RFD info, we got a better deal with Rogers/Shaw, and they sent out an XB7 gateway, replacing the previous XB6, and I haven't put either of them in Bridged Mode, because for us it wasn't necessary, and I gotta say, the WiFi coverage of the XB7 is WAAAY better then the XB6.

As for "Yaaarrrr'ing" stuff, I haven't used the XB7 for that yet, but it worked fine via the XB6, with a VPN enabled, of course!

If it's former Shaw territory converted to Roger branding like BC, then it's last mile copper. I'm not exactly please with it.

• Poor signal from neighborhood node, Shaw upgraded the cable years ago but didn't really solve the problem

Yup, unfortunately, neighbourhood density/congestion really matters..... fortunately for us, this neighbourhood isn't congested..... yet(fingers & toes crossed).

I'm on Rogers/Shaw xfinity with their hardware. Put it in bridge mode, use my own hardware after that.

It's been rock solid and pretty darn fast.

In Canada, I don't think you can use anything except for the ISP's gateway (specifically talking about docsis/cable). I know in the US there are a few providers where you can buy 3rd party modems and get them to work

Around here, if connected via Lightspeed, you have to rent or buy a modem/gateway from them, or bring your own, rather than using the Rogers/Shaw hardware: Cable Modems

 

[FreeKnight]

First of all, I suggest you check out the links that @JD provided to me, over in this thread: IPTV services ...... there are several posts in those RFD threads that show some of the deals to be had, and $75/mo. for 1Gbps is a bit high.

Based on the RFD info, we got a better deal with Rogers/Shaw, and they sent out an XB7 gateway, replacing the previous XB6, and I haven't put either of them in Bridged Mode, because for us it wasn't necessary, and I gotta say, the WiFi coverage of the XB7 is WAAAY better then the XB6.

As for "Yaaarrrr'ing" stuff, I haven't used the XB7 for that yet, but it worked fine via the XB6, with a VPN enabled, of course!




Yup, unfortunately, neighbourhood density/congestion really matters..... fortunately for us, this neighbourhood isn't congested..... yet(fingers & toes crossed).



Around here, if connected via Lightspeed, you have to rent or buy a modem/gateway from them, or bring your own, rather than using the Rogers/Shaw hardware: Cable Modems

I either missed or forgot about that thread. Thanks! It's very helpful, I'll poke on RFD and see what I can get.

 

[JD]

Isn't Rogers pretty much plug/play for third party hardware without their modem in the mix at all?

I'm still hung up on the idea that they use an external ONT which connects to the only high speed port thus rendering any wired speeds > 1G moot, but have been getting the idea that I could just plug my Unifi gateway directly into the ONT and be able to just connect any STBs directly to my APs.

For fiber areas, yes, but those are the minority I'd say. My friend is in a Rogers fiber area and his ONT is just plugged into his UDMP. No Rogers modem/gateway involved.

Most of Rogers/Shaw will be "traditional" cable internet and thus the modem is required - but that does leave the 2.5Gbps port empty. Still, WiFi 6E/7 surpass 1Gbps too, which I'm guessing is what most people use.