zodac
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I can answer that. And apologies to HWC for bringing this argument here. :sad:
You know why OCN wins? Because with the factors included, OCN did best overall. Now, how is that me being unfair? We've chosen factors which - altogether - do not favour one size of team over others.
Considering that OCN did well last year (with a system that was biased towards smaller teams), wouldn't it make sense that a system that brought that system into balance a bit would give OCN some better performance, and the teams above a bit less, no?
And one other thing - and please answer this one:
If it favours bigger teams, why does OCN win, and not Evga? Doesn't that imply that it's actually not based on size?
That's not my fault - that forum was agreed upon by the captains before I took over the role. The idea was that a different team would host the negotiations every year. No-one did though - was I just meant to stop using the forum? As it is, the forum is owned by the previous OCN captain... obviously he'd feel more comfortable giving me admin powers than someone else.
As for the post count - I want a CC as much as anyone else. How else am I meant to do that but my bumping the threads?
You think I'm leading the CC in the wrong direction. But again, I'll point out two things:
1) The CC names issue (the topic we have the most conflict over) was voted over by the teams. I didn't threaten to pull my team out of the CC if they weren't used - it was put to the captains to vote.
2) In the CC forum, go back and take a look how long ago I was asking for opinions for teams for how we should do this year's event - it was some time back in January. Excuse me for trying to push things on because other no-one else wanted something in particular.
As for your systems, you have said yourself that it favours smaller teams - that if all teams worked to their potential, the smaller teams would always win. How is that fairer, especially considering the only reason we're coming up with a new formula this year is because last year was unfair.
You make it seem as though I designed the system... as though I've gone around to the teams to promote it. Each team has had a say, and had the time to come up with their own system. I might not have agreed with your proposals, but I wasn't the only one who felt that way.
Finally: fftopic:
Zodac, you ARE the "bad guy" here. I would estimate the odds of OCN winning are now at 80%. You keep saying "we don't know until we try", which is absolutely nonsense.
We have spreadsheets - we make projections - quickly and easily. And guess who wins those projections? < hint OCN hint > I've stated this repeatedly, and repeatedly the CC captains ignore it.
You know why OCN wins? Because with the factors included, OCN did best overall. Now, how is that me being unfair? We've chosen factors which - altogether - do not favour one size of team over others.
Considering that OCN did well last year (with a system that was biased towards smaller teams), wouldn't it make sense that a system that brought that system into balance a bit would give OCN some better performance, and the teams above a bit less, no?
And one other thing - and please answer this one:
If it favours bigger teams, why does OCN win, and not Evga? Doesn't that imply that it's actually not based on size?
I appreciate your work and your zeal Zodac, but your enthusiasm isn't being moderated by someone who is looking after the future of the CC. You have a 20 to 1 post ratio over any other CC team captain, across multiple forums, AND you are the mod of the CC forum. No one can even get into the CC forum, without your approval.
And you don't think that's an undue and pervasive influence?
That's not my fault - that forum was agreed upon by the captains before I took over the role. The idea was that a different team would host the negotiations every year. No-one did though - was I just meant to stop using the forum? As it is, the forum is owned by the previous OCN captain... obviously he'd feel more comfortable giving me admin powers than someone else.
As for the post count - I want a CC as much as anyone else. How else am I meant to do that but my bumping the threads?
The way the CC decisions are made is ungawdly slow and really silly. We have CC captains who have never even raced in the CC before - never heard of it until this month. Other captains just don't show up, or lack an opinion - on almost any topic of the CC. "Whatever's" rain down from them, like leaves in the fall.
You're a natural leader Zodac, but you are leading the CC in the wrong direction. Yes, it favors OCN that you do this, and I'm sure that OCN would be quite pissed if you didn't - but it's still the wrong direction for the CC.
You think I'm leading the CC in the wrong direction. But again, I'll point out two things:
1) The CC names issue (the topic we have the most conflict over) was voted over by the teams. I didn't threaten to pull my team out of the CC if they weren't used - it was put to the captains to vote.
2) In the CC forum, go back and take a look how long ago I was asking for opinions for teams for how we should do this year's event - it was some time back in January. Excuse me for trying to push things on because other no-one else wanted something in particular.
As for your systems, you have said yourself that it favours smaller teams - that if all teams worked to their potential, the smaller teams would always win. How is that fairer, especially considering the only reason we're coming up with a new formula this year is because last year was unfair.
The smaller teams haven't caught onto how the CC will be changed yet. When they do, they won't be quite so cordial to you.
You make it seem as though I designed the system... as though I've gone around to the teams to promote it. Each team has had a say, and had the time to come up with their own system. I might not have agreed with your proposals, but I wasn't the only one who felt that way.
Finally: fftopic: