Well S_g, tells you much I presume. He probably got it on the other side of the border. :thumb:Based on NCIX forums, 17mm seems pretty certain. Guess I'll have to pass this time around. Got myself one of the new XSPC rads, but it seems the first batch had QC issues, and the fan holes are out of alignment. And any RMA-ing I do will involve x-border shipping.