It looks anyone buying needs to check their cpu for sure.
I seen a bit about this before and there's now Counterfeit 9800X3D's showing up.
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Haven't watched the video yet, but just curious, is it only occurring when bought from certain sources, or could anyone get a fake even from legitimate retailers?
Scummy people being scummy.
The amount of money they've invested to help them rip people off is disgusting.
For those that didn't watch the GN video:
The IHS was custom. Not pulled from a different CPU. So they've got an AMD similar setup to create NEW IHS' with this added shim on the inside - which touches their scam PCB in such a way that it Looks like the IHS is touching actual cpu dies, when looking at the cpu from the side. Or at very least, they're making and adding these shims to existing IHS' for the same effect.
On top of that, they've got the capability to make convincing -enough PCBs, pads, and surface mount components. This isn't just some POS rubbing away the text and adding a sticker or lasering on fake text on a bar headspreader. It might even be a miniature assembly line with actual robotic soldering force surface mount stuff - its very hard for a human to solder all those tiny smds by hand, even with a microscope, and make it as clean and as perfectly -aligned as a robotic system can. I do soldering with a microscope, so I know.
Basically, they've got tens of thousands of dollars in a small factory, just to scam people. The number of reported and confirmed cases are very low, says GN, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's dozens of these fakes being made, per day. Reporting from sources that GN and others can find is only a drip in the ocean, as many probably have been scammed face-to-face, have no recourse, dont report it, etc.
Just disgusting. People are @#$%.
The amount of money they've invested to help them rip people off is disgusting.
For those that didn't watch the GN video:
The IHS was custom. Not pulled from a different CPU. So they've got an AMD similar setup to create NEW IHS' with this added shim on the inside - which touches their scam PCB in such a way that it Looks like the IHS is touching actual cpu dies, when looking at the cpu from the side. Or at very least, they're making and adding these shims to existing IHS' for the same effect.
On top of that, they've got the capability to make convincing -enough PCBs, pads, and surface mount components. This isn't just some POS rubbing away the text and adding a sticker or lasering on fake text on a bar headspreader. It might even be a miniature assembly line with actual robotic soldering force surface mount stuff - its very hard for a human to solder all those tiny smds by hand, even with a microscope, and make it as clean and as perfectly -aligned as a robotic system can. I do soldering with a microscope, so I know.
Basically, they've got tens of thousands of dollars in a small factory, just to scam people. The number of reported and confirmed cases are very low, says GN, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's dozens of these fakes being made, per day. Reporting from sources that GN and others can find is only a drip in the ocean, as many probably have been scammed face-to-face, have no recourse, dont report it, etc.
Just disgusting. People are @#$%.
Amazon seems at fault in this particular case, but Newegg has sold fakes, and obviously they're all over the used market "buy my used 9800x3D for $100 less than anyone else!". Online retailers (or re-retailers, as I call them) that blindly accept products into their ecosystem and dont follow up or check the incoming products is obviously a problem here. But will they do anything about it? It would take a huge investment from them, people that are actually knowledgeable and/or trained would need to be hired to check the incoming "new products", and even more importantly, validate returned products properly.
This is why, ive got the following rules:
1) buying used, meet face to face whenever possible (aka pretty much always unless you know them or have dealt with them before).
2) scammers will rarely let you pick up from their homes, but Don't automatically trust someone meeting you face-to-face in the lobby of an apartment complex or similar.
3) scammers selling face-to-face love little parking lots, faaaarr from any cameras, so for parking lot meets I like park in the wrong area "by accident" and make sure my dash came see their cars license plate. Once you meet, if youre a bit sus, say something like "its a bit too hot/cold out here, let's do this in that Tim's" and see how they react.
4) "It doesn't need to be tested, its basically brand-new" BIG red flag. If they're selling it used, then they can break the seal of a BNIB item and test it for you, or better yet, in front of you.
5) Harder to do, but ive sometimes brought my old Alienware laptop with external graphics amplifier to test a used gpu before buying. Haven't (yet) had someone back out immediately once they see I've come prepared. Obviously you can't really do the same buying a used CPU.
Admittedly, my rules might be overkill. But I haven't been successfully scammed in a looooooong time. I got scammed once, like 18-20 years ago, buying a piece of audio equipment. Never again.
And lastly, if youre buying new, buy in a walk-in store like Canada Computers. Bring it home, test it ASAP. If there's anything wrong, you go back to the store. I highly doubt any such store would make a fuss if you got a scam parr from them.
Hope it helps.
I didn't get to watch much of the video myself but I thought man this is getting bad for sure.
I just made an agreement to purchase a friend of mines brand new 9950X cpu that he purchased before buying his mobo and ram and he's got all the rest of the stuff that he needs like power supply and case and a good 3 month old Arctic 420mm AIO.
He called me up and said he needs money and needed it fast and I know he trust worthy and wanted 639 for it which is a 200 dollar hit off what he paid with tax in at 839 from amazon,he said it's still sealed and in the package never taken it out and he has had it 8 days.
He said I could throw it in my system when he is at my place if I want to and run CPU-Z and also test it quickly,he also showed me his order from amazon so I'm not to worried.
I thought to myself well I don't need it but I want so I guess my 9900X will be my back up cpu lol
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