For the macbooks, they are more expensive than the average but not by much for the same specs.Why are Macs so expensive?...id love one myself but i fail to see whats so good about them to make them so expensive?
For what you get,Spec wise that is....you could build a decent gaming machine.
Though you have one nicely packaged machine with a damn nice OS.
For the desktop ones, if i may call them like that, they are workstation: not to be compared or mistaken with normal consumer desktop machines or gaming rigs like most of the members here have. They are aimed at professionals or people who -really- want them. Though they are built like servers which greatly helps for maintenance or changing parts.
Man, you can't whine against Apple store's sellers and geniuses... if they see you are mildly interested in buying anything they will do anything to have you buy it: showing you for hours how something works as a prime example. :biggrin:Lots of macs use server grade hardware, plus tac on the AppleTax so Steve Jobs has the backup fund for another replacement liver, and you have yourself a Mac Pricetag.
Edit - As stupid as I think most of their practices are, I gotta admit I hit the Apple store this weekend taking a peek around and dodging the black turtleneck cult - er, sales staff; and found the MacBook Pro refreshes actually pretty goddamn nice....and I'm probably gonna get one for my next notebook purchase.
*ducks and covers* h34r:
Though if you are just there to sneak around and go "lolwut magic mouse awes0me *touchtouchtouch*", you won't get any attention
Sadly that's a fact... though more I read of your post, more I see that a Macbook is simply not suited for what you want to do. If you really a hardware guy and most of your friends/relative are, well you will simply going to be laughed at and going to sell it in a few weeks/months after having bought it.Ya I was thinking of getting a 15" macbook but then I looked at the price and I could get a 17" 4870 blueray laptop from ASUS for LESS. They make good quality hardware but they just don't offer anything cheaper portable. $1000 for the macbook is WAY too expensive for what you get with it.
Though one could always argue that you pay for the OS.
Teehee, you know you want one... or at least do a "good action" (don't know if it's the good word) and buy it "for" the wife as a gift and then jump on it when it's going to be setup, eh, well about 10 seconds after she will have taken it out of the packaging :bleh:I dunno, buying a copy of Snow Leopard is pretty damn cheap compared to a Microsoft OS. I quite like the Core i7 15" MBP....and unfortunately as embarassing as it is, the damn thing exceeds my current gaming rig in performance at BC2....:blarg:
I would agree with the first part if you were talking about business only since most of them indeed create sadly usually .NET stuff. Though for a casual programmer or one involved in open source projects, you can create and run any POSIX stuff, so I would say that the 'fun' is there more than anywhere else....for programming (most business run programs that are on the microsoft .net platform and the fact its easier to access in the C language family hardware then it is in macs), as well as the business would and well engineering.
For a developer of anything Apple it's a must though.
I nearly barfed on myself for the second part though :shok:
Are you really trying to say that's it's -easier- to code in C under any windows than it is on OSX?
I have to agree with that. In the good old PPC day, any workstation or server were built like tanks; especially the watercooled ones. Those were amazing.Lots of mac used to have server grade hardware. This was back in the PPC days, now they are no better then any of the other all in one kit from the other major PC mfg'ers... and can in fact be worse then some. Your paying the preimium for brand name (after all that mega advertising budget has to come from SOMEWHERE!) and the over all aesthetics of it, not the "robust" hardware. Software is another thing all together but dont fool yourself into thinking that the hardware never fails, or even fails less then any of the other big boys out there.
Today they are built with some foxconn board but still last more than the average consumer hardware we are used to see. Though the build quality is amazing; open a macbook or any mac and you can see it straight away. No cables loose, no nothing hanging off something else. Everything either on the pcb or very well hidden behind something else.
Yes but widget A would have to be assembled and linked by hand and would be from badly coded out-of-date libs laying in a semi-defective server abandoned in a old IBM warehouse and widget B would have a self installer and would be optimised and nice (as in 'shiny') to look at.Yes they are overpriced.
If you have Widget A, and it's $5.95 and then you see Widget B for $7.50 it's fairly obvious that Widget B is better, right?
Pricing structure adds to the "Mac is better hardware myth". Actual fact is that companies like Asus and Nvidia supply the build/components, no different from HP and Dell.
You could still choose the A, but most of the market if they -knew- that widget B existed in the first place and would have the time to look at it < 3 sec would jump on it even if it's more expensive :thumb: