Quick check: Does my NAS setup make sense?

[sbug206]

2 drives doesn't get you protection from raid-5 (SHR). You need minimum 3. With 3 drives the data is spread out and backed up by checksums. If any one drive goes down you just swap in another and the raid rebuilds itself. If you have Costco membership get 3 of these and shuck them.

https://www.costco.ca/wd-8-tb-my-book-external-hard-drive.product.100541901.html

Also if you're not in a hurry wait for the next Rakuten promotion with Dell and get it from Dell. Or keep watching Amazon, the 920 has been below $600 past few months.

 

[Sagath]

SHR expansion is really simple and doesnt cause downtime, so I'm not sure why people are complaining about it above. I've had a ton of success with Synology, the DSM is simple to use and lots of packages. Their Atom based machines 5 or 6 years ago were prone to failure however their warranty has been great and you can migrate the drives to new units retaining data/config easily. It's saved a couple clients from long downtime a handful of times.

I dont think anyone is complaining about it, and I'm not commenting on SHR because I am not using it because was an idiot when I set up my NAS so I'm RAID5. (RIP)

 

[Cptn Vortex]

I dont think anyone is complaining about it, and I'm not commenting on SHR because I am not using it because was an idiot when I set up my NAS so I'm RAID5. (RIP)

Ou ouch ya, that's no fun

@ sbug206, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you can still set up SHR regardless of drive QTY. With 2 drives it will just "act" like RAID1. With 3 drives, it "acts" like RAID5. It's more about how much drive reduncany you set up, not the exact RAID type. Link here to description **Edit lol sorry this link is kinda dumb, as it is comparing when using mixed drive sizes..... of course that is not an ideal situation**

Shucking drives is a good option and from what I've heard they actually use decent quality drives in them, unlike the old 2/3TB Seagate days with their junky basic barracuda's. Sorry, I dont have any experience with Toshiba's, but I cant imagine them being a bad option.

 

[gingerbee]

I dont use raid anymore only drivepool/snapraid or unraid which you can add drives as you go and have parity backups which I do. Not to mention having a straight backup. also I wouldn't go larger than the 4TB right now cause there really the bang for the buck ( besides shucking which I want a warranty on the drives) I would use the iron wolf's if it is really being used as a Nas IE lots or read and writes, if its just a long term storage for a W.O.R.M. setup like me I would use even cheaper SMR drives

 

[sbug206]

Ou ouch ya, that's no fun

@ sbug206, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you can still set up SHR regardless of drive QTY. With 2 drives it will just "act" like RAID1. With 3 drives, it "acts" like RAID5. It's more about how much drive reduncany you set up, not the exact RAID type. Link here to description **Edit lol sorry this link is kinda dumb, as it is comparing when using mixed drive sizes..... of course that is not an ideal situation**

Shucking drives is a good option and from what I've heard they actually use decent quality drives in them, unlike the old 2/3TB Seagate days with their junky basic barracuda's. Sorry, I dont have any experience with Toshiba's, but I cant imagine them being a bad option.

Yes you can have "SHR" with 2 drives but my point is there's no protection. One drive goes and the whole thing goes. I'm comfortable using shucked drives because of the protection from parity and BTRF.

 

[Cptn Vortex]

 

[sbug206]

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Ok yeah, there's protection because it's essentially Raid 1 which mirrors the drive. But not parity checksums. I would call Synology and double check that SHR can expand from 2 drives to 3 in this situation. ie. You can't grow it without destroying the data volume.

 

[Cypher^64]

I love my Synology. I'm glad I moved from a full server to it. I have pretty much everything in containers and those get backed up to my Dropbox or Google drive (I can't remember).

As mentioned earlier in the thread, just get the 4th one now. Synology takes forever to rebuild the raid. You can ssh into it to change cpu priority and how much ram is allocated to the rebuild, but it's still slow.

 

[gingerbee]

I would love to know what you pay to back up 128tb of data there's a reason I don't use an online backup because it would cost me a small fortune not to mention how long it would take to back up the 30TB and growing but the cost is really the main reason

 

[JD]

I dont think anyone is complaining about it, and I'm not commenting on SHR because I am not using it because was an idiot when I set up my NAS so I'm RAID5. (RIP)

Guess it depends how much data you have, but I grabbed one of those 16TB external HDDs when on sale, moved all the files off, formatted the NAS and put the files back. Took about 2 days total I guess, the external drive was doing roughly 200MB/s (Exos X16 inside).