Rants etc.....

[Sagath]

There's two types of mixing
Point of source
Point of use

Point of source is easier and cheaper or you end up with a mess of crap under every sink. One point of source costs about the same as 2x point of use. If you factor in the labour it's about the the same money. A tank kit on PEX takes me 30 minutes. Copper takes an hour.

I run my tank at 150f and the mixing valve brings it back down to 120f. I basically turn a 40 Imperial gal tank into a 55(ish). Wife can have a full bath and I can still have a decent shower.

Since tanks are only good for 10-12 years I just take whatever I can get out of it in that time frame. In BC, tanks older than 12 years, can potentially void the insurance.

If you have an atmospheric tank I would definitely put some metal between the flex hose and the exhaust venting system.

I've got a pex system with manifold. We also travel regularly.

This entire thread has been wild to read. I think I'm going to install a Source mixer and turn up my tank...

Edit; This suitable @clshades ?

 

[clshades]

I've got a pex system with manifold. We also travel regularly.

This entire thread has been wild to read. I think I'm going to install a Source mixer and turn up my tank...

Ah the home run system. Hate those setups, complete waste of material. The argument being no fittings in walls and ceilings so less chance of leaks later. It's also supposed to reduce pressure drops to other fixtures. My Calgary place has home run, complete waste of time and money with an increased chance of Legionella.

If we don't do it commercially we shouldn't do it on the residential side either imo.

 

[Sagath]

TBH, as someone whos owned a 1/2 inch copper system, and the 3/4 homerun system, the pressure drop can be quite noticible in locations on the 1/2. I'm sure it has to totally do with installation, but most builders (unlike you seem to do) they dont give a fuck.

Seems like this guy would be a better bet for me?

 

[Izerous]

The rental has a home run system and I liked a few things about it.

-I was able to put drain vales on the outdoor taps without leaving the utility room (precautionary winter thing)

-can flush a toilet right next to someone having a shower with no effect on the person in the shower

-hot water got to the taps faster. Purging the smaller diameter lines took less water/time first thing in the morning. The house we are in now some of the taps feel like they take forever.

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Onto my actual rant. Friend has multiple recording over multiple days of people conspiring to break into a property, actively trying to get into doors, and police and security are not taking any real action right now.

 

[gingerbee]

Everyone talks about flushing the toilet and not affecting the shower, I know this was a problem when I was a kid but haven't had anything like that happen in years, At my house we do that all the time the wife and I. now that our water is fixed we don't have pressure problems anymore, Is this still a common problem.

People trying to break into your property and the cops don't care time to take action yourself like staking the place out and watching where they come from and to or confronting them I know many will say not to do but if it can be done as safely as possible it may deter them from coming back as they know your on to them. I hate thieves

 

[crazyea]

I you touch the hot water in my house whenever someone is in the shower they will freeze. If you touch the cold they will be scalded.

And it’s even worse because we share the water system with our downstairs neighbours so it’s always a gamble.

I have actually some decent anxiety over it.

 

[sswilson]

I you touch the hot water in my house whenever someone is in the shower they will freeze. If you touch the cold they will be scalded.

And it’s even worse because we share the water system with our downstairs neighbours so it’s always a gamble.

I have actually some decent anxiety over it.

clshades would be best informed on the topic, but I'm under the impression that replacing your current shower valve with any modern shower valve should have constant HW/CW metering which would alleviate that issue.

Essentially, if somebody flushes the toilet and affects cold water pressure/volume then the hot water supply is restricted by a similar amount to compensate. Your shower head volume/pressure will drop but the temperature will remain mostly constant.

 

[clshades]

TBH, as someone whos owned a 1/2 inch copper system, and the 3/4 homerun system, the pressure drop can be quite noticible in locations on the 1/2. I'm sure it has to totally do with installation, but most builders (unlike you seem to do) they dont give a fuck.

Seems like this guy would be a better bet for me?

Show me a photo of the top of your tank.

 

[clshades]

I you touch the hot water in my house whenever someone is in the shower they will freeze. If you touch the cold they will be scalded.

And it’s even worse because we share the water system with our downstairs neighbours so it’s always a gamble.

I have actually some decent anxiety over it.

Yeh that's brutal. Bad plumbing going on there. Major pressure drop. I'm betting they shared a 1/2" line off one of the fixtures below. Code failure. Should be a 3/4 supply tee's to half.

I think, if I remember correctly, 3/4" is 75% more.volime than 1/2.

 

[Marzipan]