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Summary of Intel's Troubles

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GN posted a sort of summary video on Intel's troubles so far which they labelled as Intel's collapse. Interesting thing is that even Intel themselves noted that if they decided to kill the advanced nodes like 14A, the decision may be irreversible.
  • Pat invested in fabs before there are customers, now they are pausing fab constructions
  • Donny threatening 100% tariffs on semi-conductors, yeah totally not shooting yourself in the foot there
  • Intel layoffs, exiting segments, selling parts of the company, outsource marketing
This could be a death spiral or one hell of a come back like AMD did from Bulldozer era.

 
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving chip maker.

Now, though I am an AMD fan, I dont want a monopoly either. AMD fought back hard to get where they are. They've earned their spot. But monopolies are never a good thing.

So I think its time for Samsung, Qualcomm, or even VIA to make a serious entrance into the mainstream space. I've still got VIA embedded boards, and have actually meant to test one of them directly to an equivalent AMD setup.

But ya, the Cheeto in Chief needs to go, asap. And Intel doesn't need to completely die off, but a major overhaul and new direction would be a great fresh start. Ditch the stupidly complex mixed core architectures, bring back hyperthreading or something similar, and give us Efficiency, not space heaters.
 
CMetaphor said:
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving chip maker.

Now, though I am an AMD fan, I dont want a monopoly either. AMD fought back hard to get where they are. They've earned their spot. But monopolies are never a good thing.

So I think its time for Samsung, Qualcomm, or even VIA to make a serious entrance into the mainstream space. I've still got VIA embedded boards, and have actually meant to test one of them directly to an equivalent AMD setup.

But ya, the Cheeto in Chief needs to go, asap. And Intel doesn't need to completely die off, but a major overhaul and new direction would be a great fresh start. Ditch the stupidly complex mixed core architectures, bring back hyperthreading or something similar, and give us Efficiency, not space heaters.
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I'm hoping it isn't Samsung TBH, they're getting too big. It's gross revenue is equivalent to about 80% the size of South Korea's federal revenue. They're no more known for pro-consumer behavior than any of the other big tech companies, though at least it's not an American or Chinese corporation.
 
FreeKnight said:
I'm hoping it isn't Samsung TBH, they're getting too big. It's gross revenue is equivalent to about 80% the size of South Korea's federal revenue. They're no more known for pro-consumer behavior than any of the other big tech companies, though at least it's not an American or Chinese corporation.
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Samsung has become too big for it's britches. just looked over CR's best appliance brands and Samsung is pretty much a bottom tier product now, all their stuff sucks and is unreliable. :P
 
Marzipan said:
Samsung has become too big for it's britches. just looked over CR's best appliance brands and Samsung is pretty much a bottom tier product now, all their stuff sucks and is unreliable. :P
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Yep, their fridgers, washers, etc have pretty dismal reliability ratings.

I'll get their phones and TVs, but for big appliances there's no way I'd chance a Samsung.
 
have you all seen the posts of ppl saying oh we dont want intel to fail otherwise amd will raise prices and stop innovating? i dont see that for amd as they have literally been the ones pushing the industry forward, mantle,RPM,3D-Vache, Infinity Fabric, do you think amd if alone at the top would suddenly drink the koolaid from intels dead corpse and stop innovating overnight and start charging intel prices instantly?
 
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That's because AMD need to push forward to not die. Intel abused their position for years and barely make any improvements. When AMD's Zen 2+ or Zen 3 generation came out and enterprise customers see how bad they got screwed over. I recall one video from MLID, he mentioned how some people inside Intel basically had an attitude of Too Big to Fail.

Anyway, now Donny say Lip-Bu Tan is all good. Intel stock recovered.

 
moocow said:
That's because AMD need to push forward to not die. Intel abused their position for years and barely make any improvements. When AMD's Zen 2+ or Zen 3 generation came out and enterprise customers see how bad they got screwed over. I recall one video from MLID, he mentioned how some people inside Intel basically had an attitude of Too Big to Fail.

Anyway, now Donny say Lip-Bu Tan is all good. Intel stock recovered.

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I agree. it would be a chance to let AMD become the evil we hate Intel for. this is a good time for Nvidia to step up I think...with their ARM development and then getting x86, it could be interesting.
 
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Here's another video about Intel's troubles. It went a bit further back in history to touch on Intel's failed adventures and implies that the rot started way before Pat.

 
moocow said:
Here's another video about Intel's troubles. It went a bit further back in history to touch on Intel's failed adventures and implies that the rot started way before Pat.

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hehehehe...everyone wants to get in the game, have their say on what went wrong and walk away with their pound of flesh. piranha's!!!
 

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