Weirdness

[Cypher^64]

Well then, the only option you've got is swapping the other hardware you have, might get lucky. Different psu? One stick of ram or all different ram? The problems only starting when you swapped CPUs still points a big finger at it though...

And yeah, a silkscreened 9800x3d label stuck over, say, a 7700 isn't impossible. Right number of cores and threads. And right when a program/game tried to use the X3D cache it would cause issues, as that cache doesn't exist on 7700s...

Don't know what else to suggest. It's that, or just a lemon 9800x3d. Some people are, apparently, burning them/damaging them. And dishonest people will stick their broken cpus in the box of a brand-new purchase from Amazon or similar, then return it. That's why I'd never buy top-end parts online right now tbh, too much of that crap going on, and not enough people from vendors catching it.

Edit: definitely check @Izerous ' ideas out too. I don't have a ton of win11 PCs or a ton of X3D chips, so I don't have a big enough sample size to give further advice.

I knew in the back of my mind that I shouldn't swap cpu's lol It was running stellar with the 9900x... got greedy wanting MOAR

 

[Cypher^64]

hmmm... I think I remember (correct me if I'm wrong) that once you put in a x3d chip WIndows installs some drivers for it that can't be removed.

If I go with the 9950x, will I need a fresh install of Windows?

 

[gingerbee]

The 9800x3d is a single ccd, so it won't turn off cores.

Warships is the only game I play that I watch shows while playing. Since it's so slow action I can pay attention to the show while I travel to battle

Well, you may want to test to see if it does it with any other games and try the core affinity/priority to see if it stops doing it. just seems more like some type of bottleneck. Also, If it was a damaged CPU, I would think you would see signs of it elsewhere in its use, just some ideas.

 

[JD]

Well I mean you did "lose" 4c/8t too in this "downgrade" to the 9800X3D... so I could understand your multitasking being impacted, though I don't really see how World of War Ships and Plex would be enough to do so.

Sounds like you had COD issues before too? And now it's just worse?

Having your RAM not running at XMP/EXPO is a detriment as well, a lot of performance is lost. I would at least re-enable that.

The most obvious I can think of, go into Windows Security > Device security > Core isolation, and disable Memory integrity (commonly known as VBS). This has a long history of impacting performance.

 

[gingerbee]

I have heard there is a driver that must be totally removed IE setting and all, but that was with the 7800x3d so no clue if it applies to these chips, but never heard of one you cant remove

 

[Cypher^64]

Well, you may want to test to see if it does it with any other games and try the core affinity/priority to see if it stops doing it. just seems more like some type of bottleneck. Also, If it was a damaged CPU, I would think you would see signs of it elsewhere in its use, just some ideas.

That's my thought as well. If I never played zombies again or watched shows while playing Warships, it feels like a nice and responsive pc.
it's odd that the weird artifacting in zombies didn't start until after I reinstalled Windows, before the reinstall (with the 9800x3d) I could play zombies for hours without issues.

 

[gingerbee]

That's my thought as well. If I never played zombies again or watched shows while playing Warships, it feels like a nice and responsive pc.
it's odd that the weird artifacting in zombies didn't start until after I reinstalled Windows, before the reinstall (with the 9800x3d) I could play zombies for hours without issues.

I have heard of a few strange gaming things around Win11.

 

[Cypher^64]

One thing I just thought of, maybe I should reseat the GPU. I didn't take it out when I swapped to the 9800..

I do also find it interesting that I cannot install the chipset drivers from Asus's website.

 

[CMetaphor]

it's odd that the weird artifacting in zombies didn't start until after I reinstalled Windows, before the reinstall (with the 9800x3d) I could play zombies for hours without issues.

One thing I just thought of, maybe I should reseat the GPU. I didn't take it out when I swapped to the 9800..

I do also find it interesting that I cannot install the chipset drivers from Asus's website.

Interesting. I doubt reseating the gpu will affect things, but Asus' own drivers not installing? Now that's a different avenue to pursue. What media/version of Win11 did you use for the reinstall? On my own Win11 PCs, I delay installing the last cumulative updates for as long as possible - I've often found that these "blanket" updates that contain many small patches rolled into one cause more headaches than they solve. So maybe installing the most -current revision has introduced the strange behavior you're experiencing.

Kinda glad it's (hopefully) Not a case of a scam CPU afterall... or at least far less likely now. The fact that the PC worked fine after the cpu swap... why did you reinstall windows if everything was working? Anyway, hindsight 20/20, and don't look at gift horse/installed-OS in the mouth?

 

[Cypher^64]

Interesting. I doubt reseating the gpu will affect things, but Asus' own drivers not installing? Now that's a different avenue to pursue. What media/version of Win11 did you use for the reinstall? On my own Win11 PCs, I delay installing the last cumulative updates for as long as possible - I've often found that these "blanket" updates that contain many small patches rolled into one cause more headaches than they solve. So maybe installing the most -current revision has introduced the strange behavior you're experiencing.

Kinda glad it's (hopefully) Not a case of a scam CPU afterall... or at least far less likely now. The fact that the PC worked fine after the cpu swap... why did you reinstall windows if everything was working? Anyway, hindsight 20/20, and don't look at gift horse/installed-OS in the mouth?

I created a new media drive using microsoft's media creator.

I should clarify. when I first did the reinstall it installed asus's version of the chipset drivers. I uninstalled, and installed the one from amd's site to see if that would fix the zombies and plex stuttering issue (btw, plex runs fine on the pc if I'm not gaming). Now if I uninstall the one from amd's site and try install the asus version, it just hangs at detecting hardware.

I reinstalled Windows to see if that would fix the plex stuttering and if I could cut down on the DMZ crashes.

There was something else since the reinstall that for the life of me I cant remember what software or what I was doing, but it couldn't bring up the system specs either.