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What is wrong with HCF? Member's and Staff Options Wanted

Prolab

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The more experienced members do need to be more lax with new members. However at the same time the new members need to keep in mind that they need to learn how to learn without constant attention and do so in a reasonably mature way. If you really cannot figure it out through searching the massive database of information that is this site and the internet in general then yea, fine, ask.
Some (some I said, not all) need to realize that they do not know as much as they think they do; sure most of us experienced users know and have done a ton but we also do not know anywhere close everything. Both new and old users make mistakes or forget.


And i understand its a 2-way street. For the most part, i usually google my questions most of the time. But a lot of people (including me) might not get the correct words to search for. There's thousand combination of words that i might missed while doing a search. So it may not come up properly or come up at all.


I have found that being constantly spammed by noobs asking terrible questions(how do I hack?, how do I make ___ faster?, What is a CPU/PSU/RAM/etc?, can I use ____ with ____?, What is this dildo doing in my ear? What is this yellow crusty stuff in my keyboard?, How do I make my downloaded videos(porno clips) less blocky?) really does cause more experienced members on any BBS/IRC channel/etc to develop quite an attitude if it goes on for long enough. Sure ideally they might not want to act that way but once you get worn down it is hard. At that point you either stay because it is just natural to hang around(or you want to try to fix things) or you leave because it has gone too far and you just cannot do anything about it.

In some cases after the old dudes have been worn down, and after most in the community have left the older guys like to troll the noobs. I am also guilty of this a bit. <_< >_> It seems to happen when you are left with just a handful of old core members and are surrounded by noobs constantly assaulting and never letting up and never willing to learn or put any effort into things. Eventually it is just too much and you start giving them a hard time just for the enjoyment of it. And let me tell you, it is most fun burning&BSing these skiddies. >:) At that point the forum/etc is totally toast. HWC/HCF is not there yet.


I understand seeing the same questions does get irritating. Just like the other forum i frequent on, its annoying to see "i wanna push 16 psi on my turbo, or what fuel mods do i need, i want BOV to sound like greddy", etc.

But is it really that hard to just ignore the question? If you dont like someones question, dont answer it. Your not obliged to answer it.

It'd be different if they keep PM you, or if the same user keeps posting the same questions on different sub-forum.

But really, i have other things to do/to worry about other than egging the noobs for asking (in your opinion) a stupid/noob questions.


I guess whats he's trying to say is a monetary award to those who frequent the BST?

If thats the case, how do you decide which one is worthy of getting a certain % whenever they sell/buy on the BST?

I think...
 
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mattlef

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That's lovely Mattlef. Can you put it into plain english or as an example for those of us whose specialty lies outside the marketing realm?

In other words, what? :biggrin:

LOL, my bad.

Okay, The owner of this site makes his money based on advertising. Advertisers (in this case, Gigabyte, Asus, etc) pay certain amount of money, per ad shown depending on how many people visit, the frequency of visits and how much time they spend on a certain web page as well as click through's. By encouraging more people to spend more of their free time here as active, loyal members, the owner and HWC as a whole benefits from frequent usage and potential rewards from the website making more money (more draws/contests that are not donated as one idea.)

HWC offers a lot of value to us members already with the treasure trove of information, insight and quality members. However, to encourage consistant use there needs to be added motivation to become consistently active users. The best tool for this is the BST section. By inviting users to reach a pre determined contribution level to gain access to the BST section, the community as a whole benefits from more active users, which would result in, hopefully, in more 'quality' interaction and potential added benifits (more draws/contests) from the added revenue gained by the owners if they decide to use said added revenue in that way.

As well, by putting a limit on the BST section by points or contribution level, there is less likely hood of people scamming, or fraud in the BST section. I'm not saying that all new users are going to do either, however trust is gained through interaction and commitment to a better community, and those who want to sell and run do not (IMO) add to the value of this community.

In saying that, no member is 'worth' more then any other. The frequent user should be (as a community) just as valued as the infrequent user. This is where the points/warning system comes in. Its a way of weeding out the members who are not welcome due to consistent breaking of the rules all the while rewarding those who are consistent members who bring nothing but added value to all of our experience here.
 
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SugarJ

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If you limit access by post/points/contribution level, wouldn't that way actually reduce traffic in the BST? The guest browser wouldn't be able to see the forum, like at XS where you need 100 posts to even see it?
 

headsh0t

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I think there needs to be some serious thought into how some of these repeat posters are treated. We ( users and mods included,) as a community need to find way to somehow limit the consistent lack of quality in posts by said users. If it means banning then so be it. But there needs to be a moderated warning system where we the members have a say. If said post is reported X times, then the user receives a pre-determined punishment. If they proceed to create pointless posts/ threads further action needs to be taken for the said 'offender'. However, the end result of punishment should be moderated to protect users against unjust punishment. This should also be transparent.

This right here is all that needs to be done pertaining to this whole situation. I would much rather see informative, legible posts with the poster maybe having a slight attitude sometimes, then see posts that make absolute no sense and/or take 3 times to read to understand, full of misinformation, and off topic even if they do not display aggression/attitude. Now if everybody posted like the latter, this forum would bllllllow. As soon as I see some members' avatars I just skip right past their posts. Thank god there aren't that many that I do.

If enough members are frustrated with another member and it has been reported to mods numerous times I think something SHOULD be done even if rules are not being broken. Not saying bans or anything like that but just a talking to you know? Sure the mods arent here to "babysit" but if there is some unrest in the community it needs to be addressed (kinda like what w're doing here now, finally). Also agree with transparency, let us know why someone gets banned/warned maybe with some sort of tag under their username or something? Maybe even have the INFRACTIONS THREAD and post when people get infractions and why.

And while I don't have a problem with small talk, I do have a problem with small talk/off-topic in EVERY post (that is not in the Off-topic Sections) So, sorry mods if no rules are being broken but this has gone on for quite a while and something clearly needs to happen. I appreciate what you guys do for the forum so don't think I'm thinking you guys sit around picking your asses, but I came to this forum initially due to the mature atmosphere and very informative members that frequent these forums, and not only informative but nice to the noobs WOW! If this forum loses that, it may as well be any other crap forum on the net with a bunch of whiners/assholes/nubs.

I also don't like brand whores who think a certain brand will NEVER FAIL CUZ ITS THE BEST l337. But that has nothing to do with any of this :biggrin:
 

mattlef

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If you limit access by post/points/contribution level, wouldn't that way actually reduce traffic in the BST? The guest browser wouldn't be able to see the forum, like at XS where you need 100 posts to even see it?

Not really...
I believe that it would encourage added traffic to other areas as well.
However, I'm not saying you need to be around forever to get access to the BST. not in the least. i mean that there needs to be a reward to those who provide value to our collective experience here, and the ability to buy and sell your goods should be a part of that reward.

The pre-determined level? not up for me to decide.
 

SugarJ

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What gives you the right to know who got infractions, and what for? People are entitled to privacy. I can see a police officer writing up a speeding ticket to someone, walk up and ask what it's for and he CAN'T tell me.
 

Sagath

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What gives you the right to know who got infractions, and what for? People are entitled to privacy. I can see a police officer writing up a speeding ticket to someone, walk up and ask what it's for and he CAN'T tell me.

Analogies are bad. Stop using car analogies and cop analogies, please. This isnt a cop-shop. You're not the OPP/RCMP.

I didnt realize everyone on this site was under protection due to being a minor. Cause I'm pritty sure I can check who got charged and even 'arrested pending charges for' without some 'privacy' clause.

Again, analogies are bad. I'm not saying we should or shouldnt know if people got infractions or warnings, just that analogies are bad.
 

headsh0t

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True enough, maybe not infractions/warnings but bans at least? Doesn't have to be all detailed in exactly what they did it could just be "BANNED FOR FLAMING". Might also be a good deterrent for others who see the "heads on the stakes". And yea, an internet forum ban is just LITTLE different than criminal charges
 

jcmaz

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Well, you can hold contest/prize draws for members that have been here long enough/have enough posts to encourage other to join the site...
 

Lpfan4ever

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Well, you can hold contest/prize draws for members that have been here long enough/have enough posts to encourage other to join the site...
Referring to this maybe?

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