Good to learn all of it in my opinion. I hate sprinkler fitters personally... They whine more than sparkies. That said, the requirement for sprinklers guarantees wages and work, so there's that. Sprinkler fitters typically make more than plumbers from a paycheck standpoint. Plumbers make more as a small business.
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A friend was retrofitting an office space... the occupancy permit or whatever it was was rejected multiple times because of the janky stuff that was done with the sprinklers. I think the sprinkler fitters had to come back 3-4 different times.
Hell, I think it was impressive that someone's kid wants to go into the trades; far too many kids look down on those jobs. Which is crazy to me.
I would think it's a no brainer these days if a young gentleman/lady is looking for an almost guaranteed career with decent pay. I'm thinking there's not a lot of job openings (and even less job security even if you do manage to get one of them) in white collar industries.
Oh, I totally agree, but in my limited experience with my friend's kids, when you mention pretty much any trade, they all laugh and say things like why would I want to work that hard for so little money, or "ya right, no way". It's the same response I get when I tell them to get a job in fast food
(since it's a good first job) I get the "I couldn't be seen doing that". its crazy to me when both of the families I am talking about, their fathers work in the trades. 9 kids between the 2 families, ages range from 7-20
Hell, I even mention the military so they can also get education programs and get paid for doing it. I know many would not like the military idea. I have several friends who are career military and the pay and benefits are very good, of course its not for many, but still a very good option IMHO.
Too many kids nowadays wanna do anything that makes them rich ( in their eyes). Liking what you do almost doesn't matter to so many of them as long as they make a lot of money.
The military is certainly a good way to get started on a career right out of high school, and I don't regret making a career out of it, but while the pay is decent, it's not really the kind of cash folks are hoping to get out of a career if they're committed to doing 4+ years of post secondary schooling.
As far as "wanting to do anything that makes them rich" goes..... the entry level white collar jobs that lead to the possibility of getting rich either pay peanuts, or even worse expect you to do an unpaid internship to get your foot in the door.
As far as "wanting to do anything that makes them rich" goes..... the entry level white collar jobs that lead to the possibility of getting rich either pay peanuts, or even worse expect you to do an unpaid internship to get your foot in the door.
I've seen others say it's hard to come by an apprenticeship to get started in the trades. Perhaps that's just in and around the GTA here though where housing construction has basically collapsed and even people renovating and such seems to be down.
You can blame the school system for that. Australia has a decent setup for young people. Grade 10 education required then they can jump to a trade if they want, not everyone is an academic. By 19 years old they are journeymen/women and debt free making $50+ an hour.
Worst we've ever dealt with was the machinists doing pump installs (for pump stations).
Guy shows up to an industrial jobsite wearing running shoes to machine the mounting plate for a vertical booster pump and throws a tantrum that he's supposed to be wearing steel toes. Had a similar issue on another site but I don't remember the details (wasn't one of the ones I was managing).
He basically tells the pump SME the job isn't getting done if they have to meet the PPE requirements. It was in no way impeding his work, just being a princess.
Sparkies aren't that bad, though don't clean up after themselves enough on most sites. Really all trades have their babies from my experience.
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