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Asus Prime RTX 5080 EVO missing vapor chamber

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VCZ reporting the new Asus Prime RTX 5080 EVO is actually a devolved version because Asus removed the vapor chamber. In addition, the max clock speed is lower by 45Hz, not a lot but people are expecting this thing to run hotter.

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ASUS launches GeForce RTX 5080 PRIME EVO series with vapor chamber missing - VideoCardz.com

ASUS PRIME RTX 5080 EVO launched ASUS has quietly added two GeForce RTX 5080 cards to its PRIME series with the EVO suffix. At first glance, it is not
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It would be neat if they just sold GPUs without heatsinks, and you could instead purchase separately as to what "look" you wanted. I can't think there's that much difference at the board level? And if there is, well they could streamline it to reduce costs too.

I wonder if the Zotac 5080 that Canada Computers had for $1599 this weekend (grand opening only) is similar then, the normal $1799 price was $50 less than the other identical looking card, only difference was "A" instead of "P" at the end of the model number.
 
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JD said:
It would be neat if they just sold GPUs without heatsinks, and you could instead purchase separately as to what "look" you wanted. I can't think there's that much difference at the board level? And if there is, well they could streamline it to reduce costs too.

I wonder if the Zotac 5080 that Canada Computers had for $1599 this weekend (grand opening only) is similar then, the normal $1799 price was $50 less than the other identical looking card, only difference was "A" instead of "P" at the end of the model number.
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The problem is that the really really prosumer market is probably very thin. There's too many people that have no idea what a screwdriver is and what reasonable force should be. Torque too hard and crack the die. Don't torque enough and you don't have good thermal contact leading to poor performance or dead card. The warranty return rate would be too high to justify releasing a bare board with card. Custom order card would also be too expensive to implement without asking for additional revenue. There's a reason why car mfg are reducing the amount of options and pushing people to preset options or just ship the same thing but charge people OTA update to turn the feature on.
 
JD said:
It would be neat if they just sold GPUs without heatsinks, and you could instead purchase separately as to what "look" you wanted. I can't think there's that much difference at the board level? And if there is, well they could streamline it to reduce costs too.

I wonder if the Zotac 5080 that Canada Computers had for $1599 this weekend (grand opening only) is similar then, the normal $1799 price was $50 less than the other identical looking card, only difference was "A" instead of "P" at the end of the model number.
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Start looking at waterblocks and you realize the board are drastically different.
 
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I guess you could do something like the old NZXT AIO adapter again. The die mount is pretty much the same across the same chip or series. The problem would be cooling the other components where you have to give the customer a handful of cooper heatsink and design a way to mount the fans that's compatible with most PCB.
 
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I guess you could do something like the old NZXT AIO adapter again. The die mount is pretty much the same across the same chip or series. The problem would be cooling the other components where you have to give the customer a handful of cooper heatsink and design a way to mount the fans that's compatible with most PCB.
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Had to do that in the early 2000s for GPUs. All-in-wonder was a waterblock on the die and a bunch of stick on heatsinks. The full coverage blocks are a lot better
 
I was more just thinking with the cost of the various components, and scarcity of GDDR7, is there really much benefit in having so many variants of the same card?

ASUS has 16 models listed for the 5080 for example... I don't even get why they make OC and non-OC versions as it's such a mild difference in clock speed.

Is there even any binning happening? If you had the same cooling on all the cards, would it be luck of the draw as to which overclocks highest?
 
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