Help with purchase

[Newbie72]

Hi All,
I’m new to all of this as my son has asked us to buy him a gaming PC which he will use for school work and to play online games, such as NHL, Fortnite, Modern Warfare, etc.
We live in Calgary and found the following for $1150:

CPU: AMD R7 2700 3.9GHZ 8 Core 16 Thread

COOLING: - AMD Wraith RGB CPU Cooler

-5 x UpHere 120mm RGB case fan (NEW)

MOBO: MSI X470 Gaming Plus with Mystic Light RGB Control

RAM: 16GB G.Skill DDR4 3000mhz

GFX: MSI Gaming X GTX 1070 8gb

BOOT SSD:250GB Adata NVME 3DNand SSD (NEW with 2 YEAR IPR at Mem Express, 3 to 4 times faster than conventinal SSD)

DATA HDD: 2x 500GB Western Digital 7200RPM HDDs

CASE: Corsair Carbide Spec 05 Gaming Case

PSU: CoolerMaster Elite v3 600 watt (NEW with 2 YEAR IPR at Mem Express)

O/S: Clean Install of Windows 10 Pro

Is this a good system for the price or are the components too old for 2020 gaming?

Thanks for any and all help.
Newbie72

 

[Bond007]

Honestly I think that is too overpriced. A lot of that looks like parts someone grabbed/had cheap to be able to put it on Kijiji as "great gaming computer". It would absolutely work, but I would pass. CPU cooler is stock, fans are cheap models, ssd is small, 2 x 500gb hard drives is worth very little, etc. Again, it would work, but I would pass.

What's your budget? You have monitor/keyboard/mouse/etc?

 

[moocow]

Feels a bit over priced after I build a new system with the following:

PCPartPicker Part List

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($274.75 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($126.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($100.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card ($327.08 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($134.94 @ shopRBC)
Total: $1334.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-23 12:49 EST-0500

Here is why I think that machine you found is a bit over priced:

• 2x500 HDD that's outdated, I prefer to have 1TB SATA SSD for game drive, NVME SSD is better but only by a tad. Go watch Hardware Unbox video on YT regarding performance and disk type
• Clean install of Win 10 Home could be as low as $30 USD depending on key reseller (got recommendations?)
• Ryzen 7 2700 will work fine but the newer Ryzen 3600 is better. If you can swing for Ryzen 5 5600X that's even better
• Questionable power supply, no idea who the ultimate manufacturer is
• Nvidia 1070 is not a bad graphics card but overall pricing seems a bit high, 1660 Super will be like 85% of it and you get it new
• Meh on any and all RGB

 

[Sagath]

I think people are forgetting....we first need to know if you're comfortable building your own PC from parts.

If so, yes, you can build better for less.

 

[draemn]

I have no idea what that system is worth, but that is definitely over priced.

250gb SSD is tiny, $60 at most, CPU is getting a little older and performance really isn't as good as buying a few generation old intel CPU... AMD has just come such a long way in a short time. I'd say $90 for the storage, $250 for the CPU/mobo combo $60 for the memory, $60 for the PSU, $250 ish for the 1070 (maybe $280), fans and case $80, complete build $50. Based on those guesses at price, I'd say $900 MAX

I'm guessing that this computer is at least 3 years old and there's a chance some of these parts were already used when it got put together.

 

[moocow]

Seen it before on FB Market where companies cobble together used parts and sell it as budget gaming machine with a new Win10 license. Also look out for people selling drives with Win 10 and Office pre-install, it may not even work if you plug it into your machine.

 

[Newbie72]

Honestly I think that is too overpriced. A lot of that looks like parts someone grabbed/had cheap to be able to put it on Kijiji as "great gaming computer". It would absolutely work, but I would pass. CPU cooler is stock, fans are cheap models, ssd is small, 2 x 500gb hard drives is worth very little, etc. Again, it would work, but I would pass.

What's your budget? You have monitor/keyboard/mouse/etc?

Thank you for the reply! Was hoping to stay around $1000-1200. He has a gaming mouse and keyboard but says he needs a new monitor because his is 60hrz with 2ms response time.

 

[Newbie72]

Feels a bit over priced after I build a new system with the following:

PCPartPicker Part List

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($274.75 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($126.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($100.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card ($327.08 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($134.94 @ shopRBC)
Total: $1334.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-23 12:49 EST-0500

Here is why I think that machine you found is a bit over priced:

• 2x500 HDD that's outdated, I prefer to have 1TB SATA SSD for game drive, NVME SSD is better but only by a tad. Go watch Hardware Unbox video on YT regarding performance and disk type
• Clean install of Win 10 Home could be as low as $30 USD depending on key reseller (got recommendations?)
• Ryzen 7 2700 will work fine but the newer Ryzen 3600 is better. If you can swing for Ryzen 5 5600X that's even better
• Questionable power supply, no idea who the ultimate manufacturer is
• Nvidia 1070 is not a bad graphics card but overall pricing seems a bit high, 1660 Super will be like 85% of it and you get it new
• Meh on any and all RGB

Thank you so much for looking into all the parts new online. Very insightful and greatly appreciated.

 

[moocow]

He doesn't need a new monitor. You can perfectly play games at 60 Hz and 2ms response time. If he wants 120 Hz, 1ms response time, and 1440p resolution, that will blow up your budget, me think.

 

[Newbie72]

He doesn't need a new monitor. You can perfectly play games at 60 Hz and 2ms response time. If he wants 120 Hz, 1ms response time, and 1440p resolution, that will blow up your budget, me think.

Thx...I can cross that off the list