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AMD 'Turbo Mode' appears to be a terrible idea.

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Is it just me, or is the new AMD 'Turbo Mode' MB manufacturers are working on a bit of a farce? Disabling the majority of your cores to squeak out a bit of performance from only 6/8 cores seems like a TERRIBLE idea in a world where we're mostly GPU bound for gaming over 1080p. (Even at 1080p in some cases) It's only likely to ever be enabled by gamers that know enough to get in their BIOS to make settings changes, which are also likely to be gamers that are gaming at 1440p+ in most cases? So this horribly named 'turbo mode' is likely going to provide a massive drop in performance, especially with more games loving multi-threading now. And worst will be the machines that have turbo mode enabled by big box retailers (looking at you, Geek Squad) with most of those consumers none the wiser and getting shafted on productivity.

Bleh... unless I'm misunderstanding how this tech works, I'm not a fan at all.
 
I think it is oversold. Realistically I feel like it is only "helpful" if your hitting thermal or power limits. By parking half the CPU your freeing power and thermal capacity up for whats still running. (separate conversation for multi ccd chips with only 1 x3D stack, the non x3d ccd supposedly slows down the x3d enabled side, but id rather fix that with thread optimization and thread priorities if had one).

In theory I could use it with my 5950x... but I dunno if the MB has the ability to turn off a CCD and I'd never bother. I can feed it the power and I can cool it.
 
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Izerous said:
In theory I could use it with my 5950x... but I dunno if the MB has the ability to turn off a CCD and I'd never bother. I can feed it the power and I can cool it.
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Even if one CCD can be disabled, I still feel like you'd be hitting a GPU wall well before CPU.
 
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Even if one CCD can be disabled, I still feel like you'd be hitting a GPU wall well before CPU.
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Slowest part of my desktop right now is actually the monitor. Current combination has no problem overrunning a 4k@60Hz monitor (FSR off) but large format 4k monitors that support 120hz or higher are exceptionally hard to justify the current pricing (1-2k for a 43in-ish monitor with 120Hz support).
 
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LoL I didn't even realize the HWC crew had put out a video on the subject. Seems to confirm my suspicions. I can't fathom that too many people buying current gen CPU's are worried about 720p performance. I just don't see a purpose for this 'feature'.
 
Caldezar said:
Is it just me, or is the new AMD 'Turbo Mode' MB manufacturers are working on a bit of a farce? Disabling the majority of your cores to squeak out a bit of performance from only 6/8 cores seems like a TERRIBLE idea in a world where we're mostly GPU bound for gaming over 1080p. (Even at 1080p in some cases) It's only likely to ever be enabled by gamers that know enough to get in their BIOS to make settings changes, which are also likely to be gamers that are gaming at 1440p+ in most cases? So this horribly named 'turbo mode' is likely going to provide a massive drop in performance, especially with more games loving multi-threading now. And worst will be the machines that have turbo mode enabled by big box retailers (looking at you, Geek Squad) with most of those consumers none the wiser and getting shafted on productivity.

Bleh... unless I'm misunderstanding how this tech works, I'm not a fan at all.
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If geak squad is tweaking bios for performance they could be sued pretty easily. All those settings get nuked when the bios gets updated so IF it did increase performance out of the box, where do the complaints fall when the settings go away?
 
If anything, maybe for competitive FPS? Not my thing, but my understanding is that squeezing every possible frame boost out of your hardware can result in better competitive outcomes.

In other news MSI has come up with something that reduces DDR5 latency. Doesn't look like it reduces by significant amounts but that's something that stands a chance of improving benchmarks if nothing else.
 
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