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ASUS GTX 780 Ti Matrix Platinum Review Comment Thread

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The STRIX has the memory advantage but the Matrix has its MASSIVE horsepower. I'd take the horsepower.
 
SKYMTL said:
The STRIX has the memory advantage but the Matrix has its MASSIVE horsepower. I'd take the horsepower.
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My guess is that unless you are running 4K setups, more than 2 2560x1440 monitors, or more than 3 1920x1080 monitors, the 6gb is not going to be a huge advantage.

The other issue is the 384-bit bus, which becomes a bottleneck of sorts at that resolution. This is probably why we see the 512-bit 290X closing the gap with the 780Ti at higher resolutions.
 
Should be true for the most part. My concern is games starting the trend Watch Dogs has started whether that be because of preference towards consoles unified memory, poor optimization, or both. Good point on the 384-bit bus though.

Re: Adjusting fan speeds - the advantage of the Strix is not having to muck about with any software for silent operation. I find almost all my decisions regarding hardware these days opt towards silence or low acoustics rather than pure performance so a card like the Strix is intriguing even if only for purely academic reasons.
 
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Speaking of academics, the difference between the Matrix's fans at idle and the STRIX stopping rotation altogether is virtually nil. It's purely well done marketing.
 
Vittra said:
Should be true for the most part. My concern is games starting the trend Watch Dogs has started whether that be because of preference towards consoles unified memory, poor optimization, or both. Good point on the 384-bit bus though.

Re: Adjusting fan speeds - the advantage of the Strix is not having to muck about with any software for silent operation. I find almost all my decisions regarding hardware these days opt towards silence or low acoustics rather than pure performance so a card like the Strix is intriguing even if only for purely academic reasons.
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Yeah I can see where you are coming from. I guess it's the enthusiast in me chasing the "performance at all costs" mentality.

I've become a fan of the MSI Lightning series for that reason. They are noisy cards (often comparable to reference in sound levels), but they do keep the GPU cool. They also use higher end MOSFETs than the Asus cards. MSI markets it as "DrMos 4" and "Military Class 4", which I think are IR3550s, assuming it is the same as their XPower series of motherboards. It's always annoying trying to go through this marketing jargon and to figure out what they are really saying.

The other advantage I can see with the 290X Lightning is that they are using high end Samsung memory. I think this 780Ti Matrix ships with Hynix, while the 290X Matrix ships with Elpida. No word yet on what the 780 Strix has. In general though for VRAM, Samsung > Hynix > Elpida, although you may get lucky/unlucky with the silicon lottery.

Then again, I suppose one could always buy the Lightning and turn down the fan profile, but again, it's a 290X so it's going to run hot. There's no 780Ti due to Green Light I fear. Yeah I can see that for your usage, maybe something like the Strix is best. Personally, I'm skipping this generation's highest end (290X Lightning in Crossfire is what I'd buy if I wanted) because right now, I'm not playing top end games (Civ V and some 4X games mostly), so for me, top end is not needed. Next generation though, I probably will run 2 top-end cards in SLI/CF though.


SKYMTL said:
Speaking of academics, the difference between the Matrix's fans at idle and the STRIX stopping rotation altogether is virtually nil. It's purely well done marketing.
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All other things being equal, I expect similar results at a given decibel level, simply because the Strix and the Matrix descend from the same Direct CU II cooling system, maybe the Strix running somewhat cooler since it is a 780 vs a 780Ti. That being said, the default fan profiles on the Strix are probably more silence oriented judging by their marketing and the Matrix is probably more aggressive.

To be honest, I'm not sold on this "Strix" marketing. 0db at idle means little because well, most GPUs are pretty quiet at idle. It's load noise levels that we need to look at.

It's interesting though that they changed their fan design. Earlier they were bragging about how their Cooltech design (used on this Matrix) was superior to competing designs.

Anyways, if you want to watch the video from Asus, see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YjEqwJMD4

It's a bit of a lengthy watch, but it may be worth seeing. Skip to about 13:30 to get the part I want to talk about. The 780 Ti Matrix of course, shares the same Cooltech design as the 780 shown in the video.



June 30 Edit:
It appears MSI's 290X Lightning consists of DirectFET IR6811/IR6894 VRMs. That's very good.

I wish though that MSI and everyone else would be more open about what they are really talking about, not just "Military Class 4" marketing jargon.
 
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