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ASUS GTX 980 Matrix Platinum Review Comment Thread

SKYMTL said:
We never said it was great at extreme overclocking.

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 We indicated potential but also went on to state that these ultra high end features hinge on voiding the warranty. These modifications can literally be made to any card with the right BIOS and a bit of knowledge with the same end result. The Matrix simplifies this by giving users the tools right there in front of them rather than having them look for PCB traces to jump...
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I'm not trying to say you are deceiving people or anything, but I just disagree with the tone of the article pointing so much towards what you did not test it for. I see the words "may/should/could" a lot and to me a review is about telling people what you found out and can prove/disprove about a product. I wouldn't take offense if you had a paragraph to say "hey, look, we didn't get around to testing this like the intended market segment, but we're pretty sure you're gonna love it when you do." Instead, EVERY SINGLE paragraph in the conclusion talks about this untested territory.

That's my 2C and as always, people can agree or disagree. There are a lot of great parts to this article and a healthy respect for the limits of using this card within the "walled garden."
 
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It's a good point. Unfortunately, there are always features that we can and can't test for the review itself.
 
I honestly can't believe you brought up your precieved performance wall of the 980 Strix in this review. It's so clearly an issue Asus GPU tweak, why couldn't you just use MSI afterburner like everybody else? The difference in software would have made for an interesting read but you instead just called it a day. That review of isn't an accurate representation of that card and a disservice to your readers.

Really the sites most disappointing work, I'd love to see you correct that wrong with an in depth look at various oc softwares pushed out by manufacturers.
 
Jesso2k said:
I honestly can't believe you brought up your precieved performance wall of the 980 Strix in this review. It's so clearly an issue Asus GPU tweak, why couldn't you just use MSI afterburner like everybody else? The difference in software would have made for an interesting read but you instead just called it a day. That review of isn't an accurate representation of that card and a disservice to your readers.

Really the sites most disappointing work, I'd love to see you correct that wrong with an in depth look at various oc softwares pushed out by manufacturers.
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Uh oh. Here we go again with another 1 poster signing up to flame-bait...

You do realize that MSI Afterburner has nVidia forced caps as well? This has been SOP since the GTX600 days. To top that off, I fail to see how it is Skys fault that ASUS has packaged their card with a (according to you) sub standard overclocking software suite. While it is possible that more performance could have been eeked out with a different overclocking software, I feel the review was a service to the readers: The card is overpriced versus competitors equally performing cards. It is also marketed poorly, coming with a limiting air cooler that wont help for the 'extreme' market that this is focused on. If you're water cooling or LN2 with this card, well, that is a different story, and then you're paying even more to buy a waterblock or LN2 setup.
 
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Uh oh. Here we go again with another 1 poster signing up to flame-bait...

You do realize that MSI Afterburner has nVidia forced caps as well? This has been SOP since the GTX600 days. To top that off, I fail to see how it is Skys fault that ASUS has packaged their card with a (according to you) sub standard overclocking software suite. While it is possible that more performance could have been eeked out with a different overclocking software, I feel the review was a service to the readers: The card is overpriced versus competitors equally performing cards. It is also marketed poorly, coming with a limiting air cooler that wont help for the 'extreme' market that this is focused on. If you're water cooling or LN2 with this card, well, that is a different story, and then you're paying even more to buy a waterblock or LN2 setup.
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Do not dismiss my post as flame bait because it upsets you.

It's price falls in line with the rest of the GTX 980's line and it's cooler is far from sub-standard. Honestly are you kidding me? Maybe if you used Sky's review as your only source I could see that, luckily I didn't. The cooler is positively massive with 5 heatpipes branching out of it. My card hits 1525MHz with a +500Mhz mem clock without fuss, it keeps it 77C at load so no throttling and the fan curve remains at it's quiet default.

A small sample for sure but don't take my word for it. You honestly think the crowd investing in a 980 is going first use and stop at Asus GPU tweak and that review was an accurate portrayal of it capabilities? The following reviews didn't just settle for the status quo when the 1st program they used acted irregularly. All are glowing, I didn't just cherry pick, I have all of these sites bookmarked, if you can find anything written like the review Sky did or reflect your opinion of the cooler then please share.

ASUS STRIX GTX 980 OC 4 GB Review | techPowerUp

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_980_strix_review,27.html

Review: Asus GeForce GTX 980 Strix - Graphics - HEXUS.net - Page 11

ASUS GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX OC Video Card Review - Pricing, Availability, and Final Thoughts

ASUS Strix GeForce GTX 980 OC Review - Performance Analysis and Conclusion | bit-tech.net
 
Jesso2k said:
Do not dismiss my post as flame bait because it upsets you.

It's price falls in line with the rest of the GTX 980's line and it's cooler is far from sub-standard. Honestly are you kidding me? Maybe if you used Sky's review as your only source I could see that, luckily I didn't. The cooler is positively massive with 5 heatpipes branching out of it. My card hits 1525MHz with a +500Mhz mem clock without fuss, it keeps it 77C at load so no throttling and the fan curve remains at it's quiet default.

A small sample for sure but don't take my word for it. You honestly think the crowd investing in a 980 is going first use and stop at Asus GPU tweak and that review was an accurate portrayal of it capabilities? The following reviews didn't just settle for the status quo when the 1st program they used acted irregularly. All are glowing, I didn't just cherry pick, I have all of these sites bookmarked, if you can find anything written like the review Sky did or reflect your opinion of the cooler then please share.

ASUS STRIX GTX 980 OC 4 GB Review | techPowerUp

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_980_strix_review,27.html

Review: Asus GeForce GTX 980 Strix - Graphics - HEXUS.net - Page 11

ASUS GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX OC Video Card Review - Pricing, Availability, and Final Thoughts

ASUS Strix GeForce GTX 980 OC Review - Performance Analysis and Conclusion | bit-tech.net
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Sure.

1) The card is designed for 'apparently' marketed at 'extreme overclocking' and 'LN2'. The cooler is irrelevant if that is their market target.
2) The card is designed for massive overclocking. The reviews of MSI/Asus software are irrelevant, since you have to BIOS mod the card to make it work under those conditions.
3) The card is a standard run-of-the-mill 980 when not mod'd for extreme use, and does not out perform other 980s.

But please, continue to drink your own Kool-Aid at how 'uber' and 'much better' this card is. :thumb:
 
It certainly has some advanced features you won't need on air but it doesn't price itself out of the conversation. It's still got a custom pcb with 10 phases and 6 + 8 power delivery. I'm not calling it uber but I think it's worth a $20 premium over reference cards and sits pretty right next to other options from Gigabyte & Msi, it's sound output is what sold me.

It's just your quick to dismiss attitude and misinformation that's irks me. Why should I care if afterburner caps cards to nvidia power standards? They all should. I think you have the Mv voltage unlock confused with the capping the cards core clock at 1400 MHz which is the impression I got from reading the review here.

I'm not going to have a back and forth over whether the card is worth it's place in the market with you, it so obviously does and all the links I've provided support that whether or not you want to play the contrarian.
 
Funny enough, its your quick to promote this card and dismiss Skymtl as having a perceived perception about the card that irked me. Huh. Weird how that works, eh? Its like if you word things certain ways, you get a reaction out of people!

I dont have any confusion/misinformation or a dismissive attitude about the software, or the GTX900 series in general. I use MSI software, I know it is the best. Blame ASUS if they package their card with crap software, not Sky. I own a MSI 970 4G. Its sound output is what sold me over the G1 or Strix. That and the warranty support.

I'd be glad to have a back and forth over the card. I just said that its market place and targeted audience versus what the card actually does day to day are two different things. And they are. That is my opinion. Just like your opinion differs then skys review, Im inclined to agree with skys review: The card is good, but doesnt match where ASUS is saying it should be. If you'd like to debate that, please solder your jumpers and mod your bios and report back how great this card is. I'm sure it will be. :thumb:
 
Cool, defend Sky, he's a friend of yours. This isn't a personal attack on the man, I was irked with the Strix review and it boiled over for me when I saw it come out again in this one. If it's really not fair to say he shouldn't have left it at gpu tweak after it hard capped the core clock then your being unreasonable. I had more sources to cite the cards performance but appealing to you with more info isn't cutting it.

The MSI is a good card too, you have the 970 and I agree it's better than the 970 Strix. The 980 Strix edges it in sound but it's so close whatever. I that point it was the color scheme and backplate that sealed it. Not sure why your so caught up on the marketing, it's their entry level aftermarket solution and isn't priced a league above others, it certainly isn't out of the norm for silly marketing, it's got owl eyes for crying out loud. Ln2 with a stock cooler, man where is this coming from? No ones blasting liquid nitrogen at a stock cooler. It's perfectly capable at its price point. Why are you dismissing every other outlets opinion?
 
That review is quite literally the outlier and I feel he didn't investigate enough to substantiate that opinion is really all my grievance boils down to.
 
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