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Binned CPUs? Any interest?

I suspect there is some market there, though with the recent era of mining, I think people who care about CPU temps are the ones who can no longer afford a GPU to build a new gaming rig.

Honestly, even without binning, just having somebody delid and be able to provide some assurance that it now runs at a lower temperature would be enough. I was kind of put back when I built a 8700k setup for my brother's work, to see the CPU hit 100C (and throttle the turbo speeds) so easily. I suppose I could of went for a beefier heatsink/fan setup, but I don't believe it would of made a drastic difference.

All this being said, the markup that people are willing to pay is probably pretty small. You're effectively selling a used CPU at higher-than-retail prices. That's a tough sell.

(my friends and I thought about doing this back when the 7700k came out actually)
 
Chilly said:
Yes, simply yes, duds would get sold off at a decent discount to those who can't care about overclocking much.



Taking 8700K as an example, the duds wouldn't be discounted below an 8700 nonK retail, so there a solid floor to pricing. Additionally - nonK's can't make use of all core turbo boost "MCE", so even a dud 8700K at 4.7GHz "MCE" all-core turbo will beat the pants off 8700 nonK with 4.6GHz single-core turbo, 4.3GHz all-core turbo. As such pricing should be fine at just a notch below retail for duds.

Plus there's the value-add of delidding, which all binned CPUs would be, and available at an added cost for the duds - worth it just for lower temps for some folks.
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Curious, what is the price difference per CPU between bulk buying a bunch of CPUs as described vs the retail individual chips? Are they cheap enough in bulk that you still could make money per chip with the idea you describe for duds?
 
Chilly said:
Taking 8700K as an example, the duds wouldn't be discounted below an 8700 nonK retail, so there a solid floor to pricing. Additionally - nonK's can't make use of all core turbo boost "MCE", so even a dud 8700K at 4.7GHz "MCE" all-core turbo will beat the pants off 8700 nonK with 4.6GHz single-core turbo, 4.3GHz all-core turbo. As such pricing should be fine at just a notch below retail for duds.

Plus there's the value-add of delidding, which all binned CPUs would be, and available at an added cost for the duds - worth it just for lower temps for some folks.
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I'm not sure if I didn't explain this right, but I'll try to give you an example. Maybe I'm not seeing the math the same as you. Or perhaps I just don't know how many will be lottery 'winners'.

If you buy 10 x 8700k @ $450, and you get 3 x 'lottery' chips, then you would have to sell 7 x 'reference' chips at a discount. Even if you sold them @ $400 (the price I'd assume they would sell vs 'new' chips) then you would be left $1700 behind on the purchase. That means you have to sell the 3 'lottery' chips @ $1000 EACH just to break even on the deal. ($450 retail + $560 differential share) And that doesn't factor in your time, price variance depending on what they OC to, cost to run a site, shipping and logistics, handling customer refunds, etc., etc... Now, maybe you get a discount ordering in bulk, and maybe you get lucky and get 4 or more 'lottery' winners. But you will also have times where you'll get no 'lottery' chips from a batch of 10, 20 or maybe more. I just can't see the math working out for this.

I'm not trying to crap on your idea, I'm just trying to make you aware of some things you may not have considered.
 
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I think we can just let this thread die then, its severed its purpose.

Its obvious that there is very little interest for this idea on this community.
 
Chilly said:
Your math is way off, in your example 7x duds sold at $400 = $350 down, not $1700...
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LOL legit screwed up my spreadsheet there and didn't double check. *smack*

Corrected math looks like you might float at even, although you'd still be out all the work, website, returns, etc. And as pointed out... you DO have established competition in a limited market.
 
There's a market or Silicon Lottery wouldn't be around. Just your target market may not be the long term members here who would tend to gamble on a retail chip and do it themselves. Try to gauge interest on gaming sites. Use marketing speak like "Maximize your FPS for moar kills!" :bleh: There's a reason why the mobo and GPU manufacturers target the gamer crowd and charge craploads of money for RGB and the like. It's because they can get paid more for it.

Realistically, you know exactly what you can charge simply by looking at the existing competition's offerings. Whether there's enough demand in Canada remains to be seen.
 
I have no doubt you would get some interest, but I highly doubt you would make profit with the scale of it all in Canada.
 
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