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Intel Optane

Bao said:
I saw a presentation last year that Optane was going to eventually allow NORMAL people to replace their high storage NAS's with nand NAS's in the physical form factor of a cell phone... was that all lies? :(
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IF it proves to scale up in production well, and IF it can out-compete NAND (in price vs performance AND price per GB), and IF it can lower its latency issues, and IF it can get kickass controllers from 3rd party mfg'ers to build for its unique abilities (its not like SLC vs TLC or 2d vs 3D) ... in 3-5 generations it will indeed do that... well maybe not the 'cellphone' size but everything else.

For the time being give it another gen and MLC 3D NAND will do it... as ent grade hdds are not that much cheaper than it will be. Hell you COULD do it now with TLC 3D NAND and only cost you about 2-3x the cost of hdds. ;)
 
AkG said:
IF it proves to scale up in production well, and IF it can out-compete NAND (in price vs performance AND price per GB), and IF it can lower its latency issues, and IF it can get kickass controllers from 3rd party mfg'ers to build for its unique abilities (its not like SLC vs TLC or 2d vs 3D) ... in 3-5 generations it will indeed do that... well maybe not the 'cellphone' size but everything else.

For the time being give it another gen and MLC 3D NAND will do it... as ent grade hdds are not that much cheaper than it will be. Hell you COULD do it now with TLC 3D NAND and only cost you about 2-3x the cost of hdds. ;)
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I was half asleep in the training. But the guy was pretty adamant that the future was a lot closer than 3+ years. I'll bug him the next time I see him though.

From a speed perspective, more is better I guess, but I'm pretty happy with a single 512GB PM961 drive. looking for a second just for fun in RAID 0 (not even sure if the OEM drives can do it).
 
Well NAND based drives (think Intel S and P series) are taking over from HDD in near-line storage so it is happening... but will it be optane that finishes it? No idea. Plus 3years is being optimistic for new tech. Could happen... but we will have to see. Maybe it will scale up amazingly well. Maybe NAND is nearing its limits and wont be able to keep up. Really depends on Intel and if they decide to push it hard. They didnt with the U.2 interface and its basically dead (for now). Just like a lot of Intel ideas. IMHO Intel has amazing ideas but for every 'USB' they have a dozen that never catch on. Most fall in between like Thunderbolt. It was supposed to be the Next Big Thing... but its only now its starting to take off... and even then market penetration is still limited.... so time will tell. But three years may be optimistic... or maybe pessimistic as the 'SSD' market is extremely fast paced. ;)

My personal gut says 3 gens to catch on. First to showcase it, second to refine it, third to dominate. IF everything goes perfect... and if IMFT (the biggest reason I say it could do it as its not just Intel) continues to push it and put the money into it.
YMMV
 
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