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The AMD R9 Fury X Review; Fiji Arrives. Comment Thread

A variable strobing backlight that synced with the framerate and gsync/freesync would be the perfect visual experience. No stutter and no motion blur.

As of now I can achieve this with my VG278HE if I am playing a game that pins at 120fps and stays there. It is a beautiful thing to see. But my 2-7970's can't do this anymore with newer games. Divinity 2 was the last game I played that held 120fps.
 
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Surprised how this card can keep up with the NV big boys in 4k but underperform by a large margin in 1440p. I guess I'm gonna go NV for this generation. Shame, I loved the aesthetic of this card.
 
Sagath said:
I see other tech sites babying the Fury by saying 'omg, wait till the drivers are proper'.
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There are tech sites babying the Fury? Most tech sites buried the card even though it wasn't as bad performance wise as they made it out to be. Not surprising considering PC centric tech sites seem to shill for Intel and Nvidia.
 
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There are tech sites babying the Fury? Most tech sites buried the card even though it wasn't as bad performance wise as they made it out to be. Not surprising considering PC centric tech sites seem to shill for Intel and Nvidia.
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I guess that means that no sites will be getting cards from AMD in the future.

I mean they yanked KitGuru's card because what Leo said, AMD can't be at all happy with what everyone else is saying. :haha:
 
'47 Knucklehead said:
I guess that means that no sites will be getting cards from AMD in the future.

I mean they yanked KitGuru's card because what Leo said, AMD can't be at all happy with what everyone else is saying. :haha:
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ya i dunno... i listened to that guys review. if you can call it that... i think it was more a rant which showed clear bias.
 
simsin said:
ya i dunno... i listened to that guys review. if you can call it that... i think it was more a rant which showed clear bias.
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Not even close.. it was one man's criticism as he saw them and the hopes for what they need to do... Which apparently they didn't as the issues everyone has with the card are exactly what he was talking about.

Now, the card isn't a disaster like some are making it out to be.. but there are aspects that AMD NEED to fix (and should have before release) and hopefully will..

For now, at current RRP, the 980Ti is still killing the fury. (Mainly because of the lack of overclocking)
 
Dzzope said:
For now, at current RRP, the 980Ti is still killing the fury. (Mainly because of the lack of overclocking)
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Overclocking is a lesser problem than drivers. I think as SKYMTL and other reviewers have pointed out the most damning thing is the lack of driver polish. AMD seems to be having teething issues with the software for this new HBM technology. techreport points to inconsistent frametimes and poor performance in multiple games, pcper points to very poor performance in GTA V and SKYMTL pointed out poor performance in games like BF4, GTA V, Shadow of Mordor. Its now clear that AMD rushed into this release. Its also likely that the driver fixes are going to take a while (more like a few months). The only hope is that AMD is able to fix the drivers and get the best out of the Fury hardware. To point out the obvious Fury X scaling over R9 390X at 1440p is really poor. For a card with 45% more shaders, improved ROPs, tesselation and lots of bandwidth the scaling is just around 20% according to multiple reviewers at 1440p. Thats pathetic scaling.

On the other hand GTX 980 Ti scales more like 30-35% wrt GTX 980. But there is one difference. GTX 980 Ti scales every resource by 40-50%. GPC, tesselation engines, ROPs and bandwidth by 50%. Shaders and TMU by 40%. GTX 980 Ti achieves all of this perf inspite of lower boost clocks than GTX 980. This points to the advantages of a fully scaled up design and robust drivers. AMD has proved once again that they are a far second to Nvidia and the GPU market is slowly heading towards a Nvidia GPU monopoly.

But still the reason for Nvidia's aggressive pricing for GTX 980 Ti was Fury X. Nvidia might have been a bit too aggressive in hindsight. But they are a true market leader who do not give the competition even a sniff of a chance. The GTX 980 Ti has better perf/$ than GTX 980. Thats unheard of at the high end. Maxwell is a complete home run with dominance across the product stack. Kudos to Nvidia. :thumb:
 
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Yup, drivers are horrible. I mean come on, STILL no Crossfire/Multiple monitor support for FreeSync in Windows 7/8/8.1 and it's 3+ months after the release of the FreeSync driver, and God knows how many months since FreeSync was hyped.

Then there is the whole no DVI port issue (and if you use a Korean monitor, that is a major one because their included adapter won't work at 120Hz), no HDMI 2.0 port for 4K TV's at 60Hz, memory chips aren't cooled and run hot because the back plate is PURELY for cosmetics.

Is it a good card? Sure. It holds it's own against the GTX 980Ti for the same price, but AMD didn't hype this card up to "hold it's own" against nVidia's SECOND fastest card. They hyped it up to be a "Titan Killer", and in that case, it has failed.

AMD stock is also showing that. They are down another $0.11 a share to $2.47.
 
Ohh, I agree the drivers are horrible... but it's still within 2% average performance of the 980ti with them.. But once you thrown overclocking into the mix it just falls way back..

Even if / when they sort the drivers and the Fury can consistently beat a Titanx.. If they don't sort the overclocking then the 980Ti will still leave it in the dust.

"memory chips aren't cooled and run hot because the back plate is PURELY for cosmetics."
Erm.. the memory chips are on the GPU die..
 
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I think he meant the VRMs, there's a bank of them on the back of the card that have no direct contact to the backplate.

DVI was declared legacy in 2010. It's 2015. I was likely one of the first to procure a Korean monitor, as I had to go through brokers before the explosion of availability through eBay, so in that regard mine has already seen plenty of use and needs replacement, but on the other hand I paid significantly more than most people as well.

I use that as an intro because I hold absolutely no sympathy for anyone who purposefully bought a DVI only monitor from Asia to save some money and now for some reason feels burned by AMD.
 
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