discussion Upgrade question

[BALISTX]

I am deciding between systems

Systems will be used for gaming (Destiny 2, COD WW2, Diablo 3, PUBG and Battlefront II) and some Photoshop CC 2017.

All the other parts I have. As for a video card I have an EVGA GTX 980 Ti

System A:
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($214.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $784.96

I have an AIO and will attempt to OC to 4.0GHz

System B:
CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($218.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($214.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $833.96

Will attempt to OC to 4.6 - 5.0GHz

According to userbenchmark.com the Core i3-8350K is about 5% faster in gaming than the Ryzen 1600X

Is the 5% in gaming performance worth the extra $49.00 for the Intel system?

 

[SKYMTL]

I'm going to take a stab at this one.

What you are highlighting here is AMD's trump card: they have an affordable platform for overclocking whereas Intel doesn't. If it wasn't for the price difference in motherboards, Intel would be a slam dunk.

For your usage scenario though, I'd lean towards the 8350K. Photoshop, GIMP, and other photo manipulation programs are generally lightly threaded and thus favor these Intel CPUs.

Another thing I haven't mentioned in the reviews is Intel's continued partnership with Adobe. It has started to bear some pretty impressive fruit like their Texture Works Plugin: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-texture-works-plugin

That could also translate to future improvements / plugins as well.

 

[BALISTX]

Thanks for the input. I had read that Adobe favored Intel over AMD and that Photoshop is lightly threaded so it would not really utilize all 6 cores. This generation of Intel processors are an interesting batch.

 

[Vittra]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/new-builds/75932-gaming-adobe-workstation-build.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/new-builds/75338-upgrade-itch-should-i-scratch.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/new-builds/74101-pc-upgrade.html

Don't upgrade. It's still not time. :thumb:

 

[BALISTX]

One of the reasons why I am thinking of upgrading is m.2 nvme support on new boards.

 

[fubar]

Don't upgrade. It's still not time. :thumb:

I'm glad I waited (okay, more like I didn't have the $! :-( ) ....

CoffeeLake looks interesting.

It won't be more powerful than Ryzen 5 1500x/1600 or Intel i5-8400, regardless, though. So, I'll be comparing those when they are tested against one another.

 

[Chilly]

Based on those two builds, its a toss up, with slight lean towards the Intel. If you want something different, go for the AMD, otherwise the Intel is slightly better for your use-case.

Do note the VRM on the Prime Z370-A is pretty meh - I wouldn't feel comfortable taking it past 4.6GHz, even with just the i3-8350K

 

[MARSTG]

It won't be more powerful than Ryzen 5 1500x/1600 or Intel i5-8400, regardless, though. So, I'll be comparing those when they are tested against one another.

Someone already did at Hardware Unboxed.

 

[BALISTX]

Do note the VRM on the Prime Z370-A is pretty meh - I wouldn't feel comfortable taking it past 4.6GHz, even with just the i3-8350K

I decided if I go Intel (which I am leaning towards) I am going to go with the ROG STRIX Z370-F Gaming

 

[Dwayne]

Do note the VRM on the Prime Z370-A is pretty meh - I wouldn't feel comfortable taking it past 4.6GHz, even with just the i3-8350K

Based on what? Just curious. I have been looking for reviews and I found only one, and it is light on details. From what I can see the VRMs on the Prime and the ROG are very similar, component placement wise. Of course I can't see part numbers and such, and no review talks about them, so I am curious on what you are basing your conclusion.