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Build for family: Portable ITX?

A variant of the Silverstone SG13 for the case, maybe? There's a revision that got usb-c at the front now.


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CMetaphor said:
Sadly my 3D printing experience remains zero, despite getting a pretty nice ender 5 years ago. Just haven't had the time, yet.
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1-2KG of white PETG and go :) Would be a pretty good way to break in the printer. The ender 5 is just big enough to print a lot of ITX case designs comfortably.
 
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JD said:
Why not the Lian-Li A3-mATX? Much bigger than the A4 and cheaper too I believe.

ASUS AP201 is pretty similar too, along with the SAMA IM01 (I think this has disappeared though...).

The leather aesthetic might not qualify, but the Montech Heritage is another similar sized one with a handle.

I would lean towards cases that support mATX if you want futureproof-ish. More space to work with, more options for cooling, etc.
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moocow said:
Right forgot about AP201 and Lian Li A3, I was literally looking at them on Vancouver FBM. Those 2 should take ATX PSU for mATX boards. Honestly, with how thick GPU are these days, you can't really get away with a true 2 slot ITX case unless you got with just iGPU.
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The Issue I've got with all these old designs: if you're going Air Cooling, you can't go side-to-side cooling because the PSU is in front of the tower cooler. And whether you go Air Cooling or water cooling bottom-to-top cooling, you're intaking hot air off the GPU directly into your CPU cooling. Bleh.

Of course the exception would be a blower GPU card, but those arent exactly desireable, Noise-wise. Im trying to not cut Any corners on this build, so such a compromise would an absolute last resort.

crazyea said:
I would get this:
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Uh, not sure why you suggested those? Soldered CPUs are the least upgradeable option possible. Sure they're great space -savers, but in 5-6 years they'll be completely obsolete and not worth much at all, then depreciation of soldered CPU boards is going to be absolutely insane in a few years: everyone's going to have minisform 7xxx and 8xxx boards they paid 800 for that won't be worth 200 (probably). Not happening for this build.

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A variant of the Silverstone SG13 for the case, maybe? There's a revision that got usb-c at the front now.


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I have a couple such cases laying around already. One is actually better than the SG13 -family as it's got space for a 240mm AIO on both side panels I think. But they very flimsy, run hot, GPU is 2 -slot max and shoved Right up against the side panel, etc. Not a great option, other than for the budget haha

Izerous said:
1-2KG of white PETG and go :) Would be a pretty good way to break in the printer. The ender 5 is just big enough to print a lot of ITX case designs comfortably.
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That's exactly why I bought the Ender 5 haha, did the print area math. But still, I'm a long long ways away from printing my own stuff. Half the upgrade parts for it (auto leveling, new extruder, new hot end tips, etc) are in boxes all over since the flood, the cheap PLA I have was exposed to the flood and I don't have a dryer... and oh yeah, I still need to learn OnShape haha.
 
CMetaphor said:
The Issue I've got with all these old designs: if you're going Air Cooling, you can't go side-to-side cooling because the PSU is in front of the tower cooler. And whether you go Air Cooling or water cooling bottom-to-top cooling, you're intaking hot air off the GPU directly into your CPU cooling. Bleh.

Of course the exception would be a blower GPU card, but those arent exactly desireable, Noise-wise. Im trying to not cut Any corners on this build, so such a compromise would an absolute last resort.



Uh, not sure why you suggested those? Soldered CPUs are the least upgradeable option possible. Sure they're great space -savers, but in 5-6 years they'll be completely obsolete and not worth much at all, then depreciation of soldered CPU boards is going to be absolutely insane in a few years: everyone's going to have minisform 7xxx and 8xxx boards they paid 800 for that won't be worth 200 (probably). Not happening for this build.


I have a couple such cases laying around already. One is actually better than the SG13 -family as it's got space for a 240mm AIO on both side panels I think. But they very flimsy, run hot, GPU is 2 -slot max and shoved Right up against the side panel, etc. Not a great option, other than for the budget haha


That's exactly why I bought the Ender 5 haha, did the print area math. But still, I'm a long long ways away from printing my own stuff. Half the upgrade parts for it (auto leveling, new extruder, new hot end tips, etc) are in boxes all over since the flood, the cheap PLA I have was exposed to the flood and I don't have a dryer... and oh yeah, I still need to learn OnShape haha.
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Because it's a CPU and a motherboard that's competitive with a MUCH more expensive set up. That non X3D suggestion was $597.00 and it gives you a passmark of 54683. A comparible itx/cpu combo is going to cost double. So the depreciation factor would be less on this in a few years.
 
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crazyea said:
Because it's a CPU and a motherboard that's competitive with a MUCH more expensive set up. That non X3D suggestion was $597.00 and it gives you a passmark of 54683. A comparible itx/cpu combo is going to cost double. So the depreciation factor would be less on this in a few years.
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It's a good value surely. Even if we assume 1 or 2 more generations on AM5, it's not really a huge upgrade path anyways.

To get comparable performance, I think it's the 9900X ($549) + $329 for the cheapest mITX board. That's also 120W TDP though compared to just 55W.

But that being said, the $1000 budget is surely going to be tricky, with 20% going to the case. Any new video card is going to eat up about 50% of the budget... there really isn't enough money left to get much in the way of a CPU/MB/RAM unless it's being donated/gifted.

Pretty ITX builds run up costs fast :)
 
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I'm looking at used 2080s and 3060s for GPUs.

But yes, the budget will be tight, but with a mere lets say 2080 amd a 7600x (or similar base-model AM5), the upgrade headroom to a 9xxx series plus newer RTX gpu will be a huge jump easily made in 5ish years.
 
CMetaphor said:
I'm looking at used 2080s and 3060s for GPUs.

But yes, the budget will be tight, but with a mere lets say 2080 amd a 7600x (or similar base-model AM5), the upgrade headroom to a 9xxx series plus newer RTX gpu will be a huge jump easily made in 5ish years.
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What are you building the PC for tho? Gaming? If so what games? $1000 budget seems out of reach for an ITX build unless you're gonna go back a generation on the CPU.

Crazyea suggestion seems logical.
 
I wouldn't say impossible for $1K. Assuming you can trust a rando on FBM, I found a guy selling an A620i with R7-7700 for $600. Since you are not getting a glass panel case, who cares if it's a black motherboard on the inside. That's about $120 saving from buying new (7700X instead of 7700). May have to use one of the older Silverstone case you got plus a PSU. That leaves you $400 to buy a used GPU.

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