discussion Now a build for my brother-in-law - 9900X3D ?

[crazyea]

I don't regret my 9950x purchase.

I have zero complaints with my 9950x3d after 2 decades strictly with Intel. And I have seen it on sale occasionally for much less than $1000. Low $700s I think. And it’s hasn’t been a problem temperature wise either.

 

[Bond007]

I am positive the 9900X3D would work great, but personally I wouldn’t pick it. It’s a bit of an odd middle cpu…not as good at gaming as its little brother and not as good at content as its big brother.

Most important question is what does this pc get used for? But with the info we have I would lean to the 9800X3D.

IMO:
9800X3D-gaming focus (but still great all around cpu), 9900X-general use favouring productivity/cores/budget, 9950X for productivity, 9950X3D-this rig is for everything

To clarify my post after a few others, I am not by any means suggesting the 9900X or 9900X3D are bad in anyway. Just that they sit in an odd middle ground. I do stand by my thoughts on positioning of those mid to upper end CPUs, but I also recognize that pricing at the time of ordering also plays a big part in what options are the best at that time…I am literally on a ryzen 5 7600 6-core that does everything I need, so this is all based on what is best in the high budget suggested in the OP.

 

[freeagent]

The only reason I buy R9 is for the clock speed potential. The 12 cores are absolute beasts. And they play games just fine.. I prefer my 9900X over my 5800X3D lol

 

[Caldezar]

You act like 6 cores cant play a game lol. I have a 9900X and it rips. Just like my 5900X did.

Also my 5600X plays games just fine.

6 cores run games just fine. I'm only saying that $1000 for a cpu (9900x3d or 9950x3d) for gaming is a bad value vs the other options.

The 9900x is a great cpu. But it doesn't suffer from the same issue the 9900x3d does. Core parking is an optional feature in the 9900x that may see all the cores enabled during games requiring it. With the 9900x3d, the core parking is essentially a requirement due to the x3d architecture only being available on 1x ccd.

The 9800x3d, 9900x or 9950x cpus are all better value prospects (depending on usage) than the 9900x3d.

 

[freeagent]

I'm only saying that $1000 for a cpu (9900x3d or 9950x3d) for gaming is a bad value vs the other options

Ah... haha.. my bad man..

I am so used to people saying the 6 cores and 12 cores are just bad in general..

The way I see windows using my CPU in game, like MSFS 2020, the game itself will run on CCD0 where the fast cores and threads are, and when not in game something like F@H seems to run off of CCD1, to leave CCD0 to blast through whatever. It will be nice when they can put all of that logic on the CPU so the OS doesn't have to tell it everything it has to do and how to do it.

Anywhoo.. my mom said she only dropped me twice. Sorry for the misunderstanding..

 

[Lysrin]

Sorry for the delay coming back to this thread, busy weekend. That is all excellent info! Not that that's surprising I almost didn't ask this question but now I'm glad I did.

I'll have to ponder a bit more. I can get the 9950X3D, a 5080, and 64 GB RAM in his budget, so I could go top of the top in one sense, but I get the point about the value for use consideration. He isn't going to be doing anything that will likely make use of all those cores. It'd just be cool to get him the "best of the best" so to speak since he's chugged along on the 4970K for so long.

The heat is a consideration for the 9950X3D too though. I'd like to get the Thermalright Phantom Spirit Evo again because I've been impressed with that one for the easy install, and the cooling on my 5900X and the recent niece's 9900X build. But I'll have to research I guess if it'd be up to the challenge if I did go with the 9950X3D. 9800X3D for what he is going to use the PC for is likely the most sensible.

I will definitely avoid the 9900X3D though. Thanks for pointing out the issues with that chip.

 

[Bond007]

Sorry for the delay coming back to this thread, busy weekend. That is all excellent info! Not that that's surprising I almost didn't ask this question but now I'm glad I did.

I'll have to ponder a bit more. I can get the 9950X3D, a 5080, and 64 GB RAM in his budget, so I could go top of the top in one sense, but I get the point about the value for use consideration. He isn't going to be doing anything that will likely make use of all those cores. It'd just be cool to get him the "best of the best" so to speak since he's chugged along on the 4970K for so long.

The heat is a consideration for the 9950X3D too though. I'd like to get the Thermalright Phantom Spirit Evo again because I've been impressed with that one for the easy install, and the cooling on my 5900X and the recent niece's 9900X build. But I'll have to research I guess if it'd be up to the challenge if I did go with the 9950X3D. 9800X3D for what he is going to use the PC for is likely the most sensible.

I will definitely avoid the 9900X3D though. Thanks for pointing out the issues with that chip.

Best of the best is nice, but if they are literally not going to use the other 8 core ccd, I think keeping the extra $ in their pocket is a wise move.

Rumours are that the next wave of amd CPUs are going to boost clocks and core count on the AM5 socket, so the option to upgrade in the future is there.

 

[freeagent]

The one good thing about the 9950X3D if value means nothing, is that it will hit the highest core clocks. My 9900X does 5800MHz on almost all cores/threads on CCD0. Average effective clock being 5650MHz.

 

[Lysrin]

Researching a bit this morning, looks like the online consensus is that the Phantom Spirit Evo would certainly be up to the task of the 9950X3D, so that is good to know.

 

[freeagent]

And if you really want to get fancy for Nancy, stuff that EVO with T30s.

Edit:

Or H12-X28-S from Thermalright.. not a bad fan.