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Kingping or HoF question..

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Thanks guy's I ended up going with the evga sc+ acx + with bp. I was thinking classified but I can't find any stock on it.
 
It really isn't much of a loss as a smaller heat-sink will fit in more cases and the differences in temps and clocks won't make a noticeable difference in games in QHD and lower when overclocking.
 
I'm not sure in what world you guys think the other cards are even in the same class as a kingpin. I own the 780 and nothing touches this card where build quality and over clocking are concerned. The air cooling alone is superior to anything on the market and underwater its a beast. The only thing anyone buying a kingpin should be concerned about is the width of the card. Any case with window fans will not fit unless the fans are removed.

My 780 still beats a bunch of the 980's no problem.
 
clshades said:
I'm not sure in what world you guys think the other cards are even in the same class as a kingpin. I own the 780 and nothing touches this card where build quality and over clocking are concerned. The air cooling alone is superior to anything on the market and underwater its a beast. The only thing anyone buying a kingpin should be concerned about is the width of the card. Any case with window fans will not fit unless the fans are removed.

My 780 still beats a bunch of the 980's no problem.
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None? OP moved on from Kingpin to Classified, which isn't that far off from the SC.
 
clshades said:
I'm not sure in what world you guys think the other cards are even in the same class as a kingpin. I own the 780 and nothing touches this card where build quality and over clocking are concerned. The air cooling alone is superior to anything on the market and underwater its a beast. The only thing anyone buying a kingpin should be concerned about is the width of the card. Any case with window fans will not fit unless the fans are removed.

My 780 still beats a bunch of the 980's no problem.
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Kepler and Maxwell do not OC the same. It's been noted in many places now (including HWC) that Maxwell cards see little to no benefit in OC between stock, basic aftermarket, and over-engineered aftermarket cards.
 
The only difference with the 980 TI kingpin card is that it uses Samsung memory which scales well with voltages versus hynix AFAIK that all cards use.... that and it is pre-binned for ASIC quality (not a 100% guarantee for better OCs but a good measure to hit certain clocks at stock voltages).

IMHO, way too high of a premium to pay if running on air or water where the performance will be marginal.
 
vohiep84 said:
The only difference with the 980 TI kingpin card is that it uses Samsung memory which scales well with voltages versus hynix AFAIK that all cards use.... that and it is pre-binned for ASIC quality (not a 100% guarantee for better OCs but a good measure to hit certain clocks at stock voltages).

IMHO, way too high of a premium to pay if running on air or water where the performance will be marginal.
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You left out the most important distinction. The heat-sink is made from pure copper, not the aluminum found in the other cards.
 
The copper versus aluminum distinction is an interesting one but I have yet to encounter a situation where the ACX 2.0+ heatsink was insufficient for an overclocked GTX 980 Ti.....
 
vohiep84 said:
The only difference with the 980 TI kingpin card is that it uses Samsung memory which scales well with voltages versus hynix AFAIK that all cards use.... that and it is pre-binned for ASIC quality (not a 100% guarantee for better OCs but a good measure to hit certain clocks at stock voltages).

IMHO, way too high of a premium to pay if running on air or water where the performance will be marginal.
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The card is hard limited by nVidia. In reality you're on silicone lottery regardless if they call it "SUPER AMAZING BEST CARD OF THE UNIVERSE +1".

+11% power limit +87mv, and 90c. If you're not hard modding, thats all you're getting, while they're getting all your extra cash for a card that is (highly) arguable to be no better performing in the real world.
 
Vittra said:
Kepler and Maxwell do not OC the same. It's been noted in many places now (including HWC) that Maxwell cards see little to no benefit in OC between stock, basic aftermarket, and over-engineered aftermarket cards.
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Pardon me but I hardly see a problem with "over engineering" for anyone who's pulled apart a high end card to install water cooling will tell you the stock application of thermal compounds between the source of heat and the stock air cooling is in most cases brutal. I didn't find this to be the case with the kingpin. Kingpin BIOS' is highly modifiable. Most guys use the ln2 switch and adjust the voltages for water cooling and fan cooling too. Substancial increases to be had.

The reality is that while benchmark programs are more stable with high OC's real world gaming tends to be less stable and lowering settings is required.
 
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