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Yeah that makes sense. I was thinking screwing around with pics needed a little bit of power. I know SSDs make a ton of difference, just figured a CPU that old was pretty much done. The hard drive does grind like a bad bearing whenever you do anything, takes forever to boot up. I will do the SSD and buy some RAM after, I will get 2X4GB sticks. There are 4 sticks for 2Gb I think now, prolly just as well to ditch that, 1GB extra not that big of a deal.
 
If that's the case with the mechanical drive, then yeah, probably not a good idea to use it for backups. Generally even if you do use an SSD as a system drive, I do tend to recommend getting at least a cheap high capacity mechanical drive for large data set storage and backups. Plus I tend to like to limit the OS drive to only the OS and apps, and everything else goes on the separate drive. That way if Windows croaks, I can wipe and reinstall the OS drive without having to worry about losing any important data, because it's on a separate drive. But that's just me.
 
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Yeah I do the same, starting to replace my old HDDs with SSDs. Got two 320GB HDDS left to get rid of and two SSDs installed now, one for OS and one for games. Dad uses two portable drives to have two copies of his photos and important files, hopefully both will not fail at same time or it's all gone!!!
 
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SSD added to Dads old beast and WIN10 installed, it is not very good, worse actually. It all seems faster on startup, well I guess it really is, but once you go to do anything it all goes wonky. Cannot open a webpage, well the browser opens but cannot open a webpage other than the startup page. Click anything and browser locks up, cannot even get Chrome downloaded. Had to add Google as start page manually, when browser starts up it asks do you want download Chrome, I click yes and it locks up. I dunno.

I was installing Win10, got all the info added(windows key, language, keyboard, etc), picked custom install and it just started installing. I had to use bathroom and when I got back it was back at the Language/Keyboard selection. I went through that again and put in key again and it asked me where to install it. There was a new partition of ~565MB created from the first install I guess called system and the rest was in a partition called Primary. I guess the first attempt actually installed and rebooted the computer only to boot from USB again. I just installed it to Primary partition and when it all got done I checked within windows explorer and it had a Windows.old folder so I guess Win10 did actually install the first time. Can I delete Windows.old folder? Or should I reinstall it all? The system partition of 565MB is now gone and there is only one partition showing up in Windows Explorer, unless system partitions do not show up?

It seems the system runs very fast at bootup, but once booted you cannot do anything. Browser opens but you cannot do anything in it, locks up. Any ideas what could be causing this? Not enough RAM? Or just too slow? Or fresh install? Even though iut is fresh just a double install.

Thanks again.
 
That is weird. Format it all and reinstall. You should not have issues like that. Even old core 2 duo/quad will be smooth for that stuff. Did you disconnect other hard drives before installing? Check in bios that the sata is running in ahci.

If its ahci, then boot from USB, custom install, format, windows will make some partitions (but it will only install on the largest).

Once installed go into windows update and let it do all the updates...otherwise try may bog the computer down while downloading/installing. Then give it all another try.
 
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I think it is running ATA, I remember seeing AHCI and I do not think it was selected, thought ATA was better but did not know for sure so I left it on ATA.

Yeah I did not do any updates either.

I will do another fresh install, do all updates and then retry it all...May take me days to get updated with this ADSL connection. Everything is fast until I go to do something, start up is less than 20s. Hopefully this will do the trick!

Thanks.
 
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Done another couple fresh installs and it is still happening, locking up. So I checked task manager to see what process was using the CPU, it was Service Host: State Repository Service, using 50%+. Then I googled it and it is a known issue. They listed a fix of repairing Microsoft Edge through the Apps. That did not work. I installed Win10 on my PC a month ago and it was not like this version. This version asks for a PIN to log on, never had that a month ago. There were a couple other things I noticed too.

I have an older version on a 4GB USB stick that I installed on my PC from last May or June. When I went to download win10 for Dads it said I needed a 8GB stick, but yet this version is smaller than the one I have on a 4GB stick from last May. Why they force a 8GB stick when the files are smaller than the version I have on a 4Gb stick? I thought that since my internet is not that fast I would get the latest copy from microsoft, so I got sister to download it and send it out to me, and it would have most updates so I would not need to download updates for days like I did on mine last time. I might look for more fixes or just say the hell with it and install the old version and update for days.

Anyone know of any other fixes?

Thanks.
 
Done another couple fresh installs and it is still happening, locking up. So I checked task manager to see what process was using the CPU, it was Service Host: State Repository Service, using 50%+. Then I googled it and it is a known issue. They listed a fix of repairing Microsoft Edge through the Apps. That did not work. I installed Win10 on my PC a month ago and it was not like this version. This version asks for a PIN to log on, never had that a month ago. There were a couple other things I noticed too.

I have an older version on a 4GB USB stick that I installed on my PC from last May or June. When I went to download win10 for Dads it said I needed a 8GB stick, but yet this version is smaller than the one I have on a 4GB stick from last May. Why they force a 8GB stick when the files are smaller than the version I have on a 4Gb stick? I thought that since my internet is not that fast I would get the latest copy from microsoft, so I got sister to download it and send it out to me, and it would have most updates so I would not need to download updates for days like I did on mine last time. I might look for more fixes or just say the hell with it and install the old version and update for days.

Anyone know of any other fixes?

Thanks.

Don't know off hand. I have installed win10 on an equally old amd laptop with 4gb ram, and an i5 2400 with 4gb ram, and an i3 540 with 4gb ram. None of them have had any issues.
 
SSD added to Dads old beast and WIN10 installed, it is not very good, worse actually. It all seems faster on startup, well I guess it really is, but once you go to do anything it all goes wonky. Cannot open a webpage, well the browser opens but cannot open a webpage other than the startup page. Click anything and browser locks up, cannot even get Chrome downloaded.

Turn off Fast Startup. That's what's causing those issues. Seriously, I don't know why Microsoft keeps putting that stupid setting on by default. It causes nothing but issues. Sure it saves you maybe 2 seconds on startup, but causes nonstop headaches for everything else, unresponsive apps etc. Especially on older computers.

Here's how to turn it off.

Open windows explorer. Click in the address bar and clear everything. Then type "Control Panel". On the top right change it from "Category View" to "Small Icons View". Select "Power Options". On the left hand side click "Choose what the power button does". Near the top of the screen click "Change settings that are currently unavailable". Then take the tick out of the box for "Turn on Fast Startup". Click save and reboot your computer.

That should fix those issues. Just remember that anytime Microsoft does a "feature" update, ie when they update to a whole new build of windows, you'll have to remember to turn that setting back off again. Regular updates are fine, but you'll have to remember to check after feature updates. For some reason Microsoft keeps turning it back on even though it cause people no end of issues. Seriously, you'd be surprised just how many issues that one setting is responsible for. It's insane.

So sorry I didn't respond to this issue earlier. I've been really busy the last several weeks. Otherwise, I would've told you how to fix that issue a lot sooner.

Also, be careful with the latest version of windows, because it's having a lot startup stability issues right now. Killing Fast Startup still helps in most situations, but right now I'm still experience random occasional startup issues. Except now, a simple restart doesn't always fix it in my case either. I'm having to resort to fully shutting down the system and then starting back up before they'll resolve themselves now. These issues didn't start until I installed the latest updates. Microsoft really needs to get their act together, because they've been releasing a lot of really half baked updates over the last year and a half. They need to give up on feature updates for this year and spend a year focusing on stability and reliability updates, because right now, windows is a real mess of an OS.
 
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all first gen Core processors are slow as molasses. that i3 550 is barely faster than the current Celeron processors...in fact, the G4400 is 33% faster than that i3.

I was too lazy to read through the pages of this...but being it started in November, I'm going to assume the situation is resolved. :)
 

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