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The 'What are you watching' Thread

Lysrin

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Been watching Amazon's 'Wheel of Time' series. I read all the books years ago and have a mixed review of them. Some were great with great world-building and events, but the middle books suffer massive character bloat, pointless plot threads and seemingly go nowhere. That being said, it's a series that could make some great TV, though with so much content it's hard to prune it down to a TV friendly size without each book being 15 episodes.

The show is.... okay. It's reasonably high production, and the CGI magic isn't offensively bad, but they made some weird choices in what to adapt and what they pruned. The main character of the books seems to be reduced to a side-character, and while it's going to be tough to fit all the characters in substantially, it feels like they really just decided to have him as a 'deus ex' when necessary and focus on the others. S2 seems a touch better in that regard, tough it's trying to cover a lot of material in 8 episodes. Some major characters have become footnotes, other 'new characters' such as Perrin's wife seem like pointless additions.

Casting is a bit mixed. No one is awful, but the guy who plays Matt (and is replaced in S2) was definitely a bit weak, though they reduced that character so much he's barely present. Perrin's actor is good, but they've made him a bit too quiet and brooding. The actress that does Morraine is probably one of the best in the show. Nynaeve and Egwene are good, though not particularly memorable. Rand's actor looks the part, but they've pruned so much of his content from the books and made him basically flip from scared teen, to rebellious angry teen, to stoic man in all of 4 episodes.

There's a lot of race-swapping, which I usually don't care much about particularly in a world where magic and teleportation gates exist, but the books were clearly basing some of the groups off existing world cultures, so it feels a bit heavy handed, or at least makes the groups feel less monolithic and every city is a modern multi-cultural urban mix a la Toronto, LA or New York. Not looking to start a political discussion about it, but it feels like it doesn't add to the show.

I'm mid season 2 and will likely finish it, but won't really care one way or another if it gets renewed. Have a suspicion the season is going to end on a weak note with how quickly they're covering ground.

It does feel like it's kind of a lull period for big name shows at the moment, but maybe I just don't follow TV enough.
I had some issues with the casting but they're likely petty :) I do agree about the race-swapping. It gets tiresome when the changes are unnecessary. Morraine and Lan are likely my favourites, although they made some changes to Morraine I didn't appreciate.

I agree, the show is okay. I was more happy with it than not iirc. However season 2 was actually better than season 1 I thought.
 

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I had some issues with the casting but they're likely petty :) I do agree about the race-swapping. It gets tiresome when the changes are unnecessary. Morraine and Lan are likely my favourites, although they made some changes to Morraine I didn't appreciate.

I agree, the show is okay. I was more happy with it than not iirc. However season 2 was actually better than season 1 I thought.
Yeah, I don't automatically knee jerk with a "How dare they?!?" but Emond's Field/Two Rivers is written very much as Medival England & Ireland (RJ had said so IIRC) with it's emphasis on long bows, thatch roofed houses, shephards, etc. Whereas say Cairhien is very clearly built of monarchic France. Others are more loosely defined and major cities like Tar Valon would have a pretty wide variety.

It's not a big deal, particularly in a fantasy setting where people once walked through teleport gates across the world, but it'd be weird if Wakanda was a multi-ethnic panoply in the MCU after thousands of years of isolation on the horn of Africa, similarly it's weird to see what's meant to be 'ye olde magic Britain'.

I kind of liked the Morraine change where she runs into he sister and it gives her a bit more backstory. Liandrin having a son that drastically out ages her due to the slowing is a good story addition IMO. The rest of the Aes Sedai changes I'm more hum on.
So much of the other cuts make less sense. Rand not training with Lan, no mention of the void and the flame and how it translates into the power. His and Matt's travels basically being a 2 minute refugee walk, etc.

The visual variety seems stepped up in S2. Like I said, I'll finish it, but mostly out of a lack of other options. It at least has better writing than Reacher did :LOL:
 

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Just finished Rebel Moon Pt 1 Director's cut.

Definitely what we should have been offered first. Yes it's crazy long, but the back stories are a hell of a lot better fleshed out. The initial release really felt rushed, this feels a lot more epic. (And the gore is most certainly scaled up a notch... :) ).

It's also well worth cranking the HT up for as well. Lots of booms and rumbles. :)
 

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Just finished Rebel Moon Pt 1 Director's cut.

Definitely what we should have been offered first. Yes it's crazy long, but the back stories are a hell of a lot better fleshed out. The initial release really felt rushed, this feels a lot more epic. (And the gore is most certainly scaled up a notch... :) ).

It's also well worth cranking the HT up for as well. Lots of booms and rumbles. :)
I'm glad it's better but I'll have to put that on my list of things to view on my own at some point. Family didn't hate part 1 and 2 originals, but I'm guessing they would not be interested in entering into it again!
 

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Just finished 'Defending Jacob' on Apple TV. I'd give it a 6.5/10 the ending was kind of ambiguous, however, the rest of the series was quite engaging. I've noticed this recently on limited series on streamers. The shows are great but the endings turn up meh, thus the drop of 3.5 due simply to the last 20 mins of the entire series being underwhelming.

Kind of like the Sopranos, caught up in excellent TV until a 'make it up in your own mind' kind of ending.
 

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Just managed to catch the car chase scene in Bullit. I think I may have already commented on it a few years ago, but it's just amazing how many great cars you can see if you're paying attention. (Almost as many american muscle car cameos as there are VW Bugs... ;) ).

edit: Yeah, had the same comment back in 2017......

 

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