I got many years out of the 800D, but i built an external radiator housing so don't need quite as much internal space, got a NAS rigged up so don't need as much HDD space etc. ColdZero pieces helped dress it up (also added to the cost) but I think I didn't quite preorder it but pretty much had it since launch. I had used to have both HX-1080s mounted to the side panel must have weighed in excess of 80lbs at that point and that was after I removed the Koolance PSU was probably close to lbs by itself. Even now with less drives in it, radiators removed just tired of fighting it to move it. Its just one of those things where I don't "need" to replace it but FreeKnight I'll ping you directly to discuss further since you seem to be in my area anyways.