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How big is your NAS?

I built an archive server that is 36tb with 2 hardware back ups and one software, the hardware backup is one full copy of all the data on 2x18tb HDD exos, the second hardware backup is 1to1 copies of the drives, the software backup is snapraid parity drive of all data.

This PC doesn't run all the time like a NAS, mostly turn it on every weekend for maintenance or to add or retrieve data.

100% hoarder lol.

I use drivepool+snapraid, makes it super easy for anyone who has used Windows PC's ( my wife lol )

If you only need a small amount of storage you may be better off grabbing something like an orico raid box or one of the many others out there, if you go that route, I would suggest you make sure it can handle large TB drives incase over time you want to up grade it.
 
gingerbee said:
If you only need a small amount of storage you may be better off grabbing something like an orico raid box or one of the many others out there, if you go that route, I would suggest you make sure it can handle large TB drives incase over time you want to up grade it.
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I believe he may have other plans requiring for 247 usage. 😉
 
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sswilson said:
Is that without any kind of backup so that if one drive fails you lose it all?
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crazyea said:
Yeh but it’s media so I don’t care. I also have an external with the important stuff backed up to it.
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Circling back to this..... are you using the drives as JBOD, or is it striped for improved speeds?

Are improved Raid speeds even worthwhile on a system that is not going to have more than 2 or 3 users at a time?
 
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Circling back to this..... are you using the drives as JBOD, or is it striped for improved speeds?

Are improved Raid speeds even worthwhile on a system that is not going to have more than 2 or 3 users at a time?
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It’s unraid. So everything is set up as normal. I just didn’t install a parity disk.
 
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crazyea said:
It’s unraid. So everything is set up as normal. I just didn’t install a parity disk.
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Thanks, had to look it up, but it appears unraid is JBOD so presumably if one drive fails you'd only lose the files that were on that disk?
 
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I paid $230 for 10TB Seagate Barracudas 5 years ago. So this Red's would be more per GB than I paid back then. Did HDD prices just stop going down?
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Not sure Barracuda would compare directly with NAS drives though from a cost per GB standpoint at least. These NAS drives have always had a bit of a premium, and now the "Red Plus" series is the mid-range one too. My 10TB IronWolfs were around $350 back in 2020. Uncertain if that was a "sale" or not. I think it's an alright deal based on how much our CAD has dropped along with recent tariffs (or threat thereof).

But still, probably drive prices haven't dropped as much as they should have as the volume of sales (and I presume production) has dropped off considerably too? I don't think I've seen any new PC that comes with a HDD.

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Are improved Raid speeds even worthwhile on a system that is not going to have more than 2 or 3 users at a time?
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I'd be inclined to say a SSD cache would probably help this more. RAID5 comes with a write-penalty usually. If doing 4 drives, probably RAID10 is the "best" but you lose 50% capacity. Anything beyond, RAID6 is probably the way to go.

I would use the term RAID loosely though, depending if you plan to run unRAID or TrueNAS or OpenMediaVault, or whatever else is out there. I think most of these just split your files across all the drives and keep parity data, not really equivalent to hardware-based RAID.
 
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If I did decide to go for a couple of 12TB, would I be just as well off to grab a 2 bay NAS and go from there as opposed to trying to get fancy and roll my own NAS? Would a QNAP or similar NAS do the trick?

I'm assuming they've got 2.5G versions and that 10G would be well above what I'd need to connect a personal mechanical drive NAS to?
 
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If I did decide to go for a couple of 12TB, would I be just as well off to grab a 2 bay NAS and go from there as opposed to trying to get fancy and roll my own NAS? Would a QNAP or similar NAS do the trick?

I'm assuming they've got 2.5G versions and that 10G would be well above what I'd need to connect a personal mechanical drive NAS to?
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Yes Raid would be jbod without the parity disk.

I would buy a symbology or something like that if it transcodes well.
 
I picked up an old HP ProLiant Gen8 MicroServer a while back and it was an excellent investment for a NAS. I think I paid $150-200 for it locally. Came with a Xeon E3-1270 and 16GB RAM. I threw Unraid on it running from an internal USB and it runs amazing. I have 4x 10TB drives running single parity (ZFS, RAIDZ1; effectively RAID5) and never looked back.

Storage size really comes down to what your personal needs are, but I'm a huge proponent of redundancy, so a parity drive was a 'must' for me. Especially since I keep home security footage on there. And having the server hardware makes docker containers a breeze for anything I may need. (Blue Iris, HandBreak, Plex, Jellyfin, Sonarr, Radarr, etc.)

I run a single, 1TB SSD cache drive. A cache drive is amazing for transfers equal to or under the size of the drive. However, if the cache drive fills up on a large transfer, I find that it can actually slow things down, as the system is now dumping data from cache to storage, AND writing to cache. Although, with a decent sized cahce drive, that should really only be an issue for the initial data transfer.

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If you go with Unraid, check out 'Spaceinvader One' on YouTube. He has a whole host of guides through everything you could imagine. He goes through hardware options, setup, cache drives... you name it.
 
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I believe he may have other plans requiring for 247 usage. 😉
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I kind of figured, but thought I would throw it out there, cause you can just plug it into a 24/7 pc and use that as a NAS type setup, or plugged into your router. just other options that's all, the more choice you have, the better solution you may find

UNRaid is a very good choice if building your own, but sounds like a Synology/Qnap may fit your needs well enough.

Edit. Raid boxes, NAS or not have come down in price, that's cool
 
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